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Exterior wall insulation

11 years ago

We have a single story, 2400 sqft house in ZIP code 94022. It was built in late 50s. The exterior walls have 7/8" stucco siding over 2x4 studs + half inch of MDF boards. There is absolutely no insulation on any wall. We would like to add insulation to exterior walls.

A commonly used option is to open lots of holes on exterior wall and use some sort of foam to fill the cavities. I don't like that option. Our exterior walls have 16" on center studs, and every 16" section is also divided into 3 or 4 sub-sections by horizontally nailed 2x4s. This means they need to open close to a thousand of holes on stucco to fill cavities with insulation.

There is another option that seems to be frequently used in Europe for old house insulation: using rigid foams on top of stucco, then covering the foam boards with a special, stucco like material. I cannot find that option here. Here is a video: http://youtu.be/bubzyD0tuoI

Does anyone know whether such an option is available in US? Or any other option for insulating exterior walls of an old house? It is not super cold in CA, so 2" of polyiso type board can provide enough insulation.

Comments (7)

  • 11 years ago

    Not sure if this is a duplicate of a recent post, but you really have to ask yourself if this is worth doing at all in a warm climate. Far more cost effective to concentrate on air sealing and good insulation in the attic and basement.

    As for the foam over stucco as used in Europe, what I've seen in photographs is incredibly ugly - looks like the worst of Soviet architecture as practiced under Stalin. Then there's the hugely labor intensive process of adjusting all the exterior trim.

    Unless you are faced with very high electric rates for summer air conditioning, wall insulation under your conditions strikes me as totally unnecessary.

  • 11 years ago

    Not familiar with what you're looking for. (The video is not available at the URL provided.)

    But instead of adding two more layers of material, consider removing the existing stucco board (or is it actual stucco), dense pack cellulose or foam, then finish with stucco or other siding.

    However, the whole project makes little sense in terms of payback in your moderate climate.

    Here are the IECC 2012 requirements. You're in Climate Zone 3.

  • 11 years ago

    Thanks for the responses. Winter is not super cold, but it is still cold. We have night temperatures around 40F, and for a short period in winter, it may drop to 32F. Walls and floors feel pretty cold to touch. But I got your point about checking air sealing first. This might be the first issue we need to target, as we often feel a cold air draft close to floors.

  • 11 years ago

    Could you remove the interior perimeter walls, install insulation and then put in new drywall? It would be a good time to upgrade the wiring as well.

  • 11 years ago

    I lived there for 13-14 years. Had an appt in Mt View uninsulated. There was a fairly thick cold boundary layer next to the walls. Touch the wall with your arm horizontal and your hand would be cold but shoulder warm. The layer was about 12-18" thick - don't remember exacty tho I did measure it. I'd bet your ceiling is not insulated either cause I had a house in old Sunnyvale same age as yours and it wasn't.

    I'd guess the draft you feel is from a convection current with cold air flowing down the walls rather than a leaky house. Just a guess.

  • 11 years ago

    I'm in the next zip over. Original construction quality here is very low. Home values are sky high. It pays to do the job right here unless you are flipping. Either add a layer on the outside and redo all the windows and doors, or rip out the walls inside and insulate properly. I hate the interior wall texture here, I would rip out the walls and put in nice smooth ones.

    I think the swiss cheese method is useless because there is no way of knowing if everything is really plugged up and the foam is truly filling the cavity.

  • 11 years ago

    Yes. Dryvit Stucco and a product called Sto can be applied directly onto ridged foam insulation.

    Yes they are available in the US and have been used for many years.