??? on my screen they look painted ???

harry

Harry- it's a natural coating..a farina a lot of succulents have.

well, that's very strong than!!

be carefull with it; it must be nice to have them.

greets

Harry

Neil

I had same reaction as Harry at first - it is the golden-looking edges of leaves (farina rubbed off?) that give them that painted look.

I don't have any :-<
Here is little about ghosts (apparently crested):

-ghosts-

Rina

It looks similar to my (what I believe to be) graptosedum 'ghosty'. Though the farina is a lot heavier and not as messed up as in mine. But as it is you can see the more yellow /green of the leaf under.

Ee, sorry for the large image. Whenever I try to add a cropped version it keeps returning my cursor to the top rather than bottom. :/

Rina- & Harry- This plant is quite heavy on the farina. The smudges are where it has rubbed off. The under coating now is a golden greenish tinge but, I have noticed dramatic color changes in these particular plants. I have seen them bluish, purplish, pinkish, orangey, gray, yellowish and white of course when all the farina stays on. I brought them inside for some pruning as their 8-10 stacks of leaves surround the main rosettes that will eventually fall off. So, better to salvage some now to propagate.

Kmarti- How large are your rosettes? Mine are about 6-8 inches in diameter.

It looks like something different to me, but beautiful whatever its name is.

Deva- What does it look like to you??

I think it may be the maturity of the plant and grow conditions? I bought mine just over a month ago with 5 stuck in a 4" pot. The rosettes are about 4" in diameter now. But only 5 rows of leaves deep.

I've also found the color change/grow pattern a bit funny. The pic shown has 3 grown in bright shade with an hour or two of direct afternoon sun. I have 2 in a different pot that are more pink but are also not as large - despite being purchased in the same pot.

It's just my guess, either way your plant looks amazing. I hope ours are similar and mine will look that great later. :)

I think we have the same plants Kmarti so yours are equally amazing : ) You should see my neighbor's! He He has a bunch growing in a 12" inch pot and each plant has a stem about 8-12 inches long. Each of the stems have tiny rosettes that really look unusual because of the length of the stems. He told me that from time to time he be-heads the rosettes so new ones grow in it's place. He detaches any lower leaves that are not part of the main rosette to propagate them. So, he has these long tentacles spiraling out of the container with mini rosettes which look so awesome. His rosettes have a pinkish center, middle leaves sort of grayish and lower leaves yellowish. It's an amazing color scheme- love these plants!

Do you happen to know how old your neighbors plant is? The plant sounds awesome. I had hoped it would be a bit of a wanderer.

I have noticed that they are pretty prolific, I have 3 leaves that fell off during the repot and all three have sprouted little babies. :)

They are a lot of fun. It amazes me how different each can be.

Awsome :o

Kmarti- My neighbor's plants are over 10+ years old. Here's a pic of more I Have hanging outside. in the background you can see the ones with taller "trailing" stems.

Neil, I don't know what it is. I am not good with identifications. Its beautiful for sure. Maybe it is a ghosty but is just really heavy on the white powdery stuff??? Shape is similar...

Deva- yeah, you're probably right.

Debra L. Baldwin has a photo and writes this in her blog:
(link to it I posted in previous post on this thread)

Graptopetalums may form crested growth—rosettes that form tight clusters (above). This vignette of low-growing drifts of succulents is at Waterwise Botanicals nursery in Escondido, CA. Top to bottom: ice plant (lampranthus), Crassula ‘Campfire’, crested Graptopetalum paraguayense and Sedum rubrotinctum ‘Pork and Beans’.

The color of plants in above photo doesn't seem to be exactly same as yours Neil, but rosettes are quite similar. And photos from distance may not be the best for comparison of color.

Rina- yeah it's the same plant you and I have.

I think, lol

I like the "ghost" variety! Mine aren't ghostly but they're very prolific!

Robin

Sowngrow- I like those too and they contrast nicely with the ghost plants. Are those vera Higgins cultivar?

Neil, I can see similar color on many leaves of sowngrow's plant that your plant has with less prominent farina? - not so much in rosette but older leaves.
Rina

Neil, looking through my "not so organized" photo file records, I find the label from the original plant lists the cultivar as "California Sunset." The petals/leaves break off so easily and this is the easiest to grow, of any succulent I've owned. I have oodles of them!

I found a few that are more red. I don't think they were getting more sun than any of the others.

Robin

Neil, your plant could very well be xGraptosedum 'Ghosty'. Have you seen it bloom & if so, were they yellow?

In your 1st pic, the farina/bloom on the plant & rubbed off edges, plus maybe a photo taken with flash(?), could make that look more pronounced.

Rina, DBL has been known on many occasions to misidentify xGraptosedum 'Ghosty' (even when in bloom) as Graptopetalum paraguayense, so I wouldn't take the look of the plants in that pic as an example. ***Went back & looked at the link you gave, Rina, and scrolling down page...shows the plant w/yellow blooms~exactly what I was talking about...that is xGraptosedum 'Ghosty', misidentified.

Ghost Plant is a common name used for Graptopetalum paraguayense. 'Ghosty' is a culitvar name for xGraptosedum 'Ghosty'. I believe max rosette size is about 6 inches. If you have a plant that is 8" in diameter, it is likely something else, than either of these mentioned.

Color is variable on both these plants, depending on growing conditions. Another common name for G. paraguayense is Mother of Pearl (though rarely heard used), due to the changing colors.

Here are a couple examples of the 2 mentioned above (while in flower-yellow on 'Ghosty', white on Ghost Plant).

Rosemarie
I am so glad you stopped by...I always hope you will, since your knowledge is so great.
I just struggle along, try to look them up - but there is so many variables, sometimes I am close, more often not :)
I always bookmark your posts.

HOPE YOU GET TIME OFF YOUR CHORES TO HAVE FUN CELEBRATING 4TH!
Rina

Rosemariero- Thanks to your pictures i do see a difference! It's subtle, but it's there. It was really hard to spot it in person for some reason. Anyhow, i re-took the picture as I brought the plants outside and hopefully it's a bit better for identification. on the second pic you posted the small, pinkish rosette in front of the jades, can you tell me what that is? I have one too and never knew it's name.

Neil- 10 years, that is awesome to see them so healthy. We will see what they look like next year. So long as my black thumb doesn't kill them in the mean time. Haha.

Rina- Still ogled all the flowers. It does amaze me how many look so similar/named similarly and yet are different plants. I don't know that I'll ever truly 'get it'.

Sowngrown- Those are beautiful. I love the maroon coloring.

Rosemariero- Thank you for the info, pictures definitely says a thousand words. :)

Thank you kmarti!

Robin

Rina- Thanks for the link to Debra Lee Baldwin's site! What is ironic is that these plants were gifted to me by friends of hers, Mr. Roger Martin and his wife Gerry. They live about 10 minutes from me and invited me to their home before I left for San Francisco a couple of weeks ago.

Their property is part of a sloping canyon and just perfect for growing cacti and succulents. They showed me pictures of when Debra Lee visited them to photograph some of their plants for one of her books.

I very humbly asked for a cutting of a ghost plant and got far more than I bargained for! Mr. Martin also showed me a small group of plants in a large, round container that he told me had never been seen in California until he brought it from Mexico over 40 years ago! Graciously, he gave me about 5 cuttings!

I left there with quite a haul thanks to their generosity and tomorrow I will visit with them again..mostly to return some flower pots Mrs. Martin let me use to carry some of my cuttings home in.

You probably think this is a corny story but, I just wanted to share it : )

Here is a pic of another one..i think it's the same plant but crested? Again, i'm not sure.

I think that's an awesome story!

Robin

Neil
I like the story too, and what a great opportunity to have friends like Mr & Mrs Martin! I would love to have chance to see the gardens and meet people like them.
The last photo you posted - it looks crested, but the leaves are just slightly slimmer? I don't know if this kind of subtle difference means it is different plant...that's why we need ppl like Rosemarie :)
and flowers will probably help a lot.
Rina

Thank you guys, you're very kind : ) In total agreeement about Rosemariero! If only she could be here 24 hours a day to answer all my questions *sigh...but, unlike me, i'm sure she has a real life! lol.

This is a pic of only half the stash Mr. & Mrs. Martin gave me. As you can see, not just cuttings but entire plants! The other half was still in my car at this point. I think they're mostly the ghost plants, but i am no longer confident in any ability i thought I had..to identify succulents, lol.

Quite the haul, Neil & lovely story!! Plant people are usually generous, as shown by these folks! Which plants did they bring from Mexico 40 yrs ago?

You need blooms to identify your plants. Some differences are more obvious than others, but many plants are variable (hence the need for blooms).

Rina, happy to jump in. You do very well with IDs & are way more helpful to people than I am! Have been running a back up on my laptop all morning (trying to copy 136 GB -mostly pix!). Running off to ranch duty now. Horse to move, 2 babies in training, hubby riding, la la la! Yes, LIFE gets in my way of my obssession!!

Rosemarie
You have been helping for many years before I joined GW...and I know you are on other forums too.
Many 'old-timers' are not around much or at all since GW is gone...too bad.
I am happy to see any that were here before I joined, some who pop in when they can, and many new and enthusiastic members.
Rina

Beautiful!!!!!

Awesome haul Neil. Jealous...@@
Rina

Neil, that is a lovely story. And they were truly generous, what fun to now get to sort through and replant!

I too am curious as to what plant was brought from Mexico. Very interesting..