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New floor tile streaks and spots upon install

11 years ago
Hello, I am desperately hoping that someone has an idea of what is happening in my kitchen. We recently "completed" a remodel (hired a company, not a do it yourself project) and everything looked great - until what I thought was just a floor that needed to be cleaned turned out to be uncleanable. The remodel folks removed 20 tiles and replaced them this week. (Three week project has now gone on for seven). The tile looked beautiful when it was laid, until the grout! The same problem has happened with the new tiles. After grouting, they have tried to clean three times, and the same types of streaks, smears, and spots are all over again. The replacement tile hasn't been sealed yet, so none of these problems are under any type of sealer. What is happening in my kitchen? And why!? I am losing my mind. Company has no idea and says they have used this tile on a previous job with no problems. They agree that it looks awful and needs to be fixed again. I am attaching a few example photos from the first awful attempt. This is the kind of stuff that is all over my floor. Please help!

Comments (23)

  • 11 years ago

    Try Dupont haze remover but before that try Mr. Clean Magic eraser. I had spots on my tile floor and I used Mr. Clean magic eraser and they came off. I use magic eraser on so many things that I keep it in the house all the time.

  • PRO
    11 years ago

    Go to the tile store that provided the tile and ask for a grout haze remover that is consistent with the grout that was used. Then TEST an area that is less conspicuous and see what happens. From the photos, this does not look like a tile that needs to be sealed at all. Is it a natural stone?

  • PRO
    11 years ago

    If you have a ceramic or porcelain tile that was fire glazed, there is no need to seal the tile!! There is a local floor cleaning company that buys all of our Stone Tech Klenz All cleaner. Excellent product, recommend highly for your problem. Will remove your spots and any haze left over from the grouting process.

  • 11 years ago
    Thank you for the suggestions, which have all made me feel much better! I'm trying to figure out what kind of tile it is now. We, perhaps foolishly, just picked something we thought would look nice and that we were assured was easy to maintain. The contract description says Mars Stone sabi sabi unpolished. I tried googling that, but didn't find a result that made sense, so that must not be the full name. I think it is porcelain but am waiting for the company we did this whole project through to verify. Thank you again! Very helpful.
  • 11 years ago
    Another question since I have found people with expertise :-)

    Before we had a lot of the tiles removed and replaced, the entire floor was sealed. Does the sealer in the areas that weren't replaced now need to be somehow stripped from the areas it is already in? And, if this is the case, how long would we need to wait to reseal the grout? Nothing uglier than dirty, uncleanable grout lines.
  • PRO
    11 years ago

    Try cleaning it with a diluted acetone.

  • 11 years ago
    last modified: 11 years ago

    HI -- I think even finding a cleaner for the tiles your still going to have this problem ... so this makes me think ... this is the wrong tile or there is something wrong with this tile . What is it going to look like if you spill olive oil or drop an egg etc. Try a spot by putting some this stuff on ,like some mustard or ketchup and see if you can clean that up . Maybe this tile should be re-moved and put down another choice of tile because this might be just an ongoing problem .

  • PRO
    11 years ago

    I have a few ideas. test your floor with a little water, teaspoon or so on the unsealed tile that was replaced and the same on a sealed tile, Does it stay on surface or soak in?

    The tile being a dark color and matt finish will show all marks even Clean. Go to your local tile store with a sample and tell them you want to change the sheen to a semi gloss finish they will point you in the right direction with a etching solution and sealer.

  • PRO
    11 years ago
    last modified: 11 years ago

    The Klenz All product I am recommending needs to be diluted. The back of the product will tell you how much water/product to mix to make it weaker or stronger. This product when less diluted will strip sealer from the tile and grout. By the way, it is DuPont Stone Tech #Klenz All (Entire name of product)
    I would wait a full 24 hrs after using cleaner prior to resealing grout. Do not seal the tile if it is a fire glazed product, the sealer will leave a haze. A fire glazed product can not be penetrated by any sealer or moisture via topical application.

  • PRO
    11 years ago

    That tile is manufactured by Northstar and Dal Tile distributed it. Unfortunately Northstar closed 20 minutes ago and will reopen Monday. Dal Tile calls it Lodge Sabi Sabi and I am being told it is a fire glazed tile - NO SEALING. Dal Tile has discontinued this product and no longer sells it.

    Some companies private label their products so that customers have a harder time cross referencing with other stores.

  • 5 years ago

    I just had the same experience that you had with that exact floor

  • 5 years ago

    Yes I just used that same tile and same thing happened

  • 5 years ago

    Hello Liz and others - rbklein's photos look exactly like the new flooring I installed throughout my foyer and kitchen! So disappointing. I reported it to the store and they sent an inspector who concluded that the floor needs to be cleaned of grout haze - but I am not so sure. I did go ahead and order the product he said to use (OceanCare Grout Haze Remover https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B06ZZZJSDL/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1 ) I am not that confident it will do the trick but will try it. My flooring is manufactured by MSI and is called Dimension Graphite Matte. I appreciate all the product info and advice here and may try the other products as well. Thank you.


  • 5 years ago

    I poured a mop bucket filled with diluted pinesol, and now have the same issue...

    its like its baked in ... can anyone help?


    (excuse my gross feet)


  • 5 years ago

    Use a steam cleaner!

  • 5 years ago

    Any suggestions on which one i should purchase?

  • 5 years ago

    I have a Shark one that I bought from Target. If you drop food or any type of liquid is spilled it will look like the photos. Or something sticky, will look the same. Using a steamer should help, but it is something you will have to do regularly, probably every night, if you like seeing clean floors!

  • 3 years ago

    Acid cleaning for tile! Try star clean , you can by it at

  • 3 years ago
    last modified: 3 years ago

    I too would greatly appreciate input from everyone. I made a HUGE mistake and purchased a tile that looks exactly like the photos I've seen in this blog. This tile is in my master bedroom and bath and haunts me each day. I get out of the shower and within a few minutes, I have more dried water smears on my tile. My plan, if you can call it that, is to have it professionally cleaned, and then, if possible, have the tile/grout sealed with a semi-gloss sealer. Question #1) What sealant would be recommended? #2) Will this lessen the smears? Thank you!

  • 3 years ago

    To BGaines: is it manufactured by MSI and called Dimension Graphite Matte? Interested as I will follow comments to your post. The “Ocean Care Grout Haze Remover” that was recommended by manufacturer (discussed in my post above) did not work nor did washing and rinsing 5 times.

  • 3 years ago
    last modified: 3 years ago

    To Pat: As things develop, I will post in this blog. The professional tile cleaner that I hired shortly after the flooring was installed (hired due to a lingering dusty feel) told me that he had read numerous articles in his trade journals regarding this tile and how mystifying it was to clean due to the porosity. Wow, was that comforting! Now, I'm not only dealing with the smearing/spotting on the tile, I've noticed that the tile seems to have a "sticky" feel to it. I too have had more luck with using steam to clean the flooring.

  • 2 years ago

    Wow! I’m having the same issue also. We had the hexagon Matt black tile installed in both bathrooms and I can’t get rid of the marks on the floor and some smears. It’s driving me crazy.