I'd like to thank you Neil in particular, for being so kind to me as I learn more about succulents. I've grown own root roses and everything from palm trees to luffa gourds to vegetables and herbs, from seed for several decades, but have only grown succulents for a year or two. I've been a member of GardenWeb for 14 years. Everything is a learning process with forum members at various levels of experience as well as various levels of time and interest devoted to their hobby or profession; if that's the case. Helpful individuals with a good sense of humor such as yourself, make the learning process to be an enjoyable one (as it should be) rather than intimidating. It's been said, that in the end, all that matters is the kindness you have extended to others, in your lifetime.

Robin