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Garage door refacing business we started....need pricing advice (or wh

11 years ago
Started a business refacing old garage doors into beautiful carriage doors. I'm curious what you all think we could charge for two individual doors like these and then also a one large door (2 car garage)

Price would include faux windows
Hand made steel hinges and handles
Paint
Cedar wood which would be for the trim work
Labor

Comments (15)

  • 11 years ago
    They look good in the pictures. If they look equally good in real life I would say find out how much new doors that are similar would cost, and price yourself lower enough that it is compelling for folks to use you.
  • 11 years ago
    Simple: time and materials.
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    11 years ago

    Does the weight of the wood require a greater hp motor?

    Kivi and Jim C gave you the best answers on price. You have to really the combine the two to make sure you are not more expensive than simply buying a replacement carriage door.

  • 11 years ago
    Part of the trouble is that you're trying to find the happy medium for people who don't want to spend the money on expensive doors but are willing to hire you. This type of person is not a patron of the arts and will be trying to screw you down on price as much as possible. Offering custom stuff to cheap people is a crummy business position to be in.
  • 11 years ago

    Market your product to more affluent homeowners who are willing to pay you for your time and skill. And hire an accountant to help you figure out what your break-even point is so you know what you have to charge to break even or make a profit. Giving away your services is fine for a while, but if you want to do this for a living, you need to be able to make as much doing this as you could at another job.

  • 11 years ago

    If you base a business plan off of asking strangers what you should charge, you won't be in business very long.

  • 11 years ago
    I actually disagree. I think coming to Houzz with many professionals that can offer advice is the perfect arena to inquire on pricing. To answer the other questions....the wood we use is cedar which is significantly lighter than PVC plastic and were against using plastic anyways. It does add more weight but not so significant that it requires a larger opener. We weighed the door and each door it added 48 pounds. So we just got bigger springs to handle the weight. It is pretty amazing in person and this all started because we did our doors (pictured) and then our neighbors started flocking over wanting them as well. The inquiries have been flooding in but getting that price point just right has been a challenge. Thanks for all advice. The pictures don't do the doors justice....I've literally had folks stop and ask who made my doors and then I explain. Also....totally investment for both doors is $400 so we're thinking $800-$1,000 price point for the picture you see. I also want to mention that my husband served for 14 years in Air Force and worked on airplanes and helicopters specializing in stress engineering and therefore he can confidently assess weight on doors etc.
  • 11 years ago
    Thanks @livewireoak.....appreciate your comment. Also the picture of the two doors if I were to go through Home Depot and get similar doors which have not as much dimensions on the cuts as ours do....is approx $3,900
  • 11 years ago
    For a high end door, I don't think people would be shopping big box stores, but rather a custom garage door company.
  • 11 years ago
    I priced custom doors and they started at $5,000 a door! Crazy! I felt I had to keep My price point lower because I would be using the existing door.
  • 11 years ago
    Ok, 400 in materials. What is your time worth? It looks like it is more than a 2-day project, so you're probably already under 30 $/hr before you start subtracting out other costs mentioned above. If comparable doors from a big box cost 3500 (each? per pair?) I'd be looking to price higher to protect my margin. If you can undercut a comparable item by 40-50% you've built a strong incentive for someone to use your service, so (assuming a 3000 dollar door) I'd be looking to charge 15-1800 each. Don't barter against yourself up front and quote a low price, figure out the max the market will bear. Of course you might do a few jobs cheap to get some recognition out there and home your technique, but that's just a marketing consideration.
  • 11 years ago

    You need to read this from start to finish before you take a single step towards doing one more project. What the market wants to pay you has nothing to do with what your costs are and whether or not you make money. You can lose money and still think you are making money if you don't understand your true costs of doing business.

    Cost #1 is insurance. If you don't have proper business insurance, you don't set foot on anyone's property unless you want to put everything you own at risk of loss.

  • 11 years ago
    Thank you everyone appreciate the advice. We're really looking to be a one man show for now. I have already filed the LLC and have been meeting with a Score counselor for business advice. It's been great to hear the feedback. I will say it's been a tough market here trying to get anyone to believe in us. All of these inquiries flood in but until money changes hands there is really no business. I will heed the advice and check back later if I need any more help. Thanks a bunch
  • 11 years ago
    @sandyC actually here in Columbus Ohio....everyone shops at Home Depot and lowes....the mom and pop businesses have died here....everyone runs to Home Depot. In fact every inquiry I have had they mention how much they could buy a door at lowes or Home Depot for. It's annoying.