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Echeveria purpusorum progress

11 years ago

I know a bunch of you have these! How are they doing?

They're such slow growers. I wasn't even sure mine had changed much since the beginning of the summer. After pulling up my original photos, I realized it has grown a few more leaves. =)

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  • 9 years ago

    Really, Kevin? Sheesh. Look where mine is.


    Here she is though, grown very hard (mostly crushed granite in this thing, it was on my "do not water and do not feed" shelf all summer. Looks thristy. In 3-inch pot.

    Pagan

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  • 9 years ago

    An E. purpusorum was in the first batch of succulents I ever bought. Don't have any recent pics, but hopefully I can take a few this afternoon.

  • 9 years ago

    Rina - This is the one I got: Acurite Weather Station. It doesn't have a separate sensor, but I have one like that for my garage in the winter to make sure my pipes don't freeze.

    Pagan - We keep them in almost the same spot! Haha.

    Didn't expect us to keep them so differently. Why was it on your do not water and do not fertilize list? Looks really good in that pot.

    I was worried the leaves on mine would start splitting or bursting, but they seem to be just fine! My mix is maybe 70% granite, I don't remember anymore.

    Totally OT but your caudex plants are looking great in your photo. Sedum furfuraceum getting a little wiley on you? I'm trying to control mine to one pot. Your Kalanchoe tomentosa is small yet has a very nice woody stem! Was it pruned back much?

  • 9 years ago

    You know, I'm really not sure why it was there, Kevin. But that's where I found it when I started bringing them in---grouped with my rain-fed plants. When I say rain-fed, that's not an exaggeration either. Rain was all they got all summer. I guess that establishes how hardy E. purpusorum is.

    I really like Kalanchoe tomentosa. I know it's common but rare is not really my thing. I've had this one for a while and I've been pruning it every time it starts to look annoying. It does the same thing that anacampseros does---it pushes several new growths around the stump. Left on its own, it did not seem inclined to branch and just shot up on a single stem. Not very attractive to me.

    My Sedum furfuraceum is distressing!It was a casualty of the great 2014 move when we bought this house. I'm not sure what to do with it now.

    My caudiciforms have not really dropped leaves; it's probably still too warm there. I have a young Bursera faragoides too! And still full of leaves.

    Hey my Faucaria tuberculosa didn't bloom this year.

    What's this? Even blurred it looks scrumptious.


    P

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    Pagan - They are pretty hardy, plants, I agree. It's actually quite reassuring to have something resilient to grow and not have to worry about it at all.

    I'm growing some cuttings for Kalanchoe tomentosa, but was worried about it getting quite large. Might adopt a similar strategy and hope it branches more than once.

    The only two caudiciforms I have now are a Pelargonium carnosum and Trichodiadema stellatum. The Pelarg is growing new leaves now, while the Tricho is shedding a few.

    Bummer that you didn't get any Faucaria flowers this year. Just wasn't good enough weather for you? Mine were pretty exceptional this time around, every pot of mine flowered and I have maybe 15+ seed pods on the way. Not sure what I'll do with them yet!

    The blurry mystery plant is Stomatium mustellinum:

    It's a very dense mat that flowered for me in the late summer last year. Didn't flower for me yet, so maybe it'll do it sometime during the winter. I don't think are all that common in collections.

  • 9 years ago

    Holy cow, that is gorgeous. And it's supposed to be hardy down to -12C! You water this one from the bottom? I have a couple of pelargs and one trichodiadema that I have not dug out for 3 years so I'm wondering now how much it has grown its caudex. It did not bloom this year either.

    I think it's because I put a lot of plants into the pergola which I screened last spring to keep the squirrels out. That is perfect shade for dormant haworthias but probably not enough light for others. I'll have to rethink my pot distribution next spring.

    We're totally OT now but it's your thread and you don't seem to care so...please show us your Pelargonium carnosum andTrichodiadema stellatum?

    Pagan

  • 9 years ago

    Here we are:

    #1 sometime around late Spring-ish


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    #2 now, just took this picture minutes ago!!


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    A lot more color and personality, as well as a few more leaves. I keep this one on my windowsill right now, as I find it takes some effort to get it etiolated. Mine is very small. Got it for $2, and right now, it is only about 1 1/2 inches across. Looking forward to another growing season!

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  • 9 years ago

    Mine is not so plump, it bloomed earlier & has spent flower stalk stub & is bit dusty; decided to split:

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    Palmandsnow - Nice progress, looking much more colourful and many more leaves. $2 is quite a bargain. Time for a bigger pot soon? =)

    Rina - Yours looks like it needs more water! Interesting how it split, kind of like Howard's. Feel free to post what the flowers looked like here!

    Pagan - Bottom watering is recommended for Stomatium, which I do during the winter. In the summer I top watered and didn't have any issues. My rooftop gets a lot of sun and air.

    Do you top water your E. purpusorum? It can get tricky to water around the leaves. I do both top and bottom. Bottom is easier I find.

    Here is my Trichodiadema stellatum, originally grown from seed for 8 years from a fellow grower in Quebec:

    Pelargonium carnosum, also grown from seed but for 2 or 3 years? From the same grower as my Tricho:

    I don't mind a bit of OT posting in my threads. =)

  • 9 years ago
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    Ewwmayo,

    Perhaps... I am looking forward to checking out root progress.

    Rina,

    Yours does look like it could perhaps use a bit more water. I actually water mine quite often, probably more than I should, but it looks pretty good right now. I am really hoping to get some flowers eventually...

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    I think I was stingy with water, thanks both for recommending more water - will try :)

    I have 3 E. purpusorum and all 3 bloomed early this year; here is a photo from March 2016:

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    I'm totally going for flowers.

  • 9 years ago
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    Purty! Great growing, Rina. I usually don't let my plants bloom but okay, that orangeness looks good. Do the clumping rosettes form out of the base? I hope mine does that.

    Kevin, my T. bulbosum was 5 years old when I got it and the original
    grower had not lifted it. I remember the caudex being about a centimeter
    in diameter. Every time I get tempted to have a look-see, though, I get
    greedy about caudex size and decide to leave it alone. It's been that
    way since I got it! And of course, I prune it a lot. It blooms this really loud magenta. Have you looked at yours under the soil lately?

    Another plant I have had long enough to cycle through is this one: Crassula capitella thyrsiflora.


    After two years, it maxes out to this:

    After that, it becomes a mess. So I basically mowed it down last spring and here it is today:

    I know you have this one!

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  • 9 years ago

    Rina - Very impressed that all three of yours flowered last spring. Maybe... just maybe that's something I'll achieve next year.

    Pagan - I probably should bury the mine a little deeper. Haven't checked how it looks in the soil at all! I'll try to forget about it and check next year. Eagerly hoping for loud magenta flowers next year.

    I'm not sure how the previous grower got the windblown shape of it. Either it was grown on it's side or wired? Or maybe towards a window? Haha. Still deciding if I should go for the upright or sideways look.

    Is it possible that your Crassula is 'Caput Minima'? Just because of the leaf pattern. Great colour going on there and no joke about mowing it down. I lopped off the gangly flowering bits of mine and here's what it looks like now:

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    Oh! Hm..According to my order history, it was sold to me as Crassula capitella thyrsiflora so I just took it for granted that's what it is. But it looks like you are right! The growth habit is more akin toCrassula 'Caput Minima' and definitely more unruly than Crassula capitella thyrsiflora when it matures.Very hard to shape without restarting. At first I tried harvesting those offsets in between leaves but that got old fast. This time I think I'll just leave it alone. And the flowers stink.

    Image search for both plants is useless. It returns photos of both. Renaming my folder now!

    Pagan

  • 9 years ago

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  • 9 years ago

    More clumping! How old does the plant have to be to do this, did you guys notice?

    Pagan

  • 9 years ago

    Mines only a year


  • 9 years ago

    Seed to maturity or you had it a year?

  • 9 years ago

    Ive had it one year (almost) came here is a pic from Dec 28 last year

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  • 9 years ago

    Thanks for sharing Krista!

  • 9 years ago

    I have a tiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiny one from a leaf cutting. By the time it grows to your plants' sizes, I might be too old to see it! LOL! ;-)

  • 9 years ago

    You might be surprised after a year in a good spot it will probably be about the size of a half dollar

  • 9 years ago

    I want to see the tiny one.

    Pagan

  • 9 years ago

    @fakechuchi I think I might require a microscope to capture it! ;-)

  • 9 years ago

    I got jealous and just got one of my own. Hope it looks as nice as some of yours one day

  • 9 years ago

    Looks good garrett, albeit with scratches and the typical scrapes. I am sure it will grow well for you.

  • 9 years ago

    It happens, Garrett. I once read through an aloe thread and ended up with two. Sheesh.

    Pagan

  • 9 years ago

    Here's a timeline for my E.purpusorum:


    November 2016


    December 2016


    February 2017


    March 2017


    I feel like it is coloring up nicely. I'll be happy when the damaged leaves have grown out, but that will probably be in a year!

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  • 9 years ago

    Much of the damage is already gone and hidden away. Great chronology and growing, thanks!

  • 9 years ago

    Kevin, I'm just curious, what is your watering tray/tray setup like? I see you put some grids down and maybe some tin foil?

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    Christina - Outside, my pots are on custom pressure treated wood benches. I use plastic egg crate grids on the bench tops under my pots to promote airflow and better drying.

    Inside, most of my pots are in study plastic grow trays which are perforated on the bottom. Those tray go on egg crate grids as well to form a sturdy base on my shelves and elevated wood platforms (or right on the shelves). These platforms are used to accommodate plant heights and get the right light distance.

    Awkwardly shaped plants have their pots sitting in the grids directly.

    Tinfoil or plastic trays are used to catch any drips from getting on the floor or sitting on my counter. This makes it possible to care for lots of plants despite having white carpet!

    For watering outside I use a hose with multi pattern spray head and additional flow adjusting valve. Takes maybe 30mins for 100+ plants.

    For watering inside I lift and soak each grow tray in large plastic tubs. Takes maybe 1.5hrs for around 250 plants.

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    Thanks for explaining Kevin. :) I'm reeling at the fact that you have 250 plants! Sorry, one more question... those plastic grow trays... how large are they?
    I recently bought a new shelf (48in x 18in) & new lights (48 in) long and I'm trying to figure out a good tray setup. I was thinking of boot trays at first, but those are $22 USD for one!!!

  • 9 years ago

    Haha, they don't really take up that much space (yet). The grow trays are around 11x18"? I'd have to measure to see exactly. They hold 24x2.5" pots each.

    Mine are much sturdier than boot trays and <$10 CAD each.

  • 9 years ago

    If you intend to carry plants in trays, you really need sturdy ones as Kevin said. I have few cheep shoe trays, they are very good to keep plants on but I don't think I can carry pots on those (they were only $1/each...)

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  • 9 years ago

    You know what, I went to the local nursery this weekend and found 11x21 trays!
    Can't speak on sturdiness, as the were $2.5 ea. lol

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  • 8 years ago

    Three years later it has finally started to bloom!

    Hoping all of yours are doing well. =)

  • 8 years ago

    Mine ended up rotting when it was outside for the summer. Luckily, I was able to propogate some of the leaves.

  • 8 years ago

    Looking good, eww! It's very purple and turning me green!

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  • 8 years ago

    Very nice. I'd like to get mine to flower, especially after seeing a photo of Rina's. I've thought of it as an echeveria for haworthia lovers. I like how the bottom leaves don't shrivel and fall off every other week like so many others (or tempt me to always be removing them too soon because I'm a neat freak with plants), and they don't need a ton of light, unless you want them to flower of course.

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  • 8 years ago

    It's a pretty robust Echeveria, I like it for that reason too. The big thick leaves are also pretty interesting.

    Some plants just need time to mature before flowering I believe. Surprised mine took 3 years because it already got to a huge size, but I am happy for the achievement.

  • 8 years ago

    Here are some photos of a plant I have, when it flowered last June:


    Browsing through the photos on this thread, I don't think we all have the same plant. Worth noting what it says under E. purpusorum on the ICN site:

    Note :

    The true species is rare. Plants offered in the trade usually are hybrids. There are several more or less similar hybrids, one of them is named E. 'Dionysos'. Offsetting plants most likely are all hybrids.


  • 8 years ago

    Yes, there are many hybrids! I bought mine because they were supposed to stay small but mine has grown to be maybe 12cm in diameter and 12cm high.

    I refuse to put it in a bigger pot!

    Yours looks great! The flower color is very pretty.

  • 8 years ago

    Has anyone gotten offsets from these other than Rina's double headed plant?

  • 8 years ago

    I have a double headed plant as well as some singles, I’ve had this species at least 10 year and never an offset..I haven’t tried to root any leaves..

  • 8 years ago

    Only read it, but supposedly it doesn't propagate easily from leaves. I have only seen photos of some with offsets.

  • 8 years ago

    No offsets here either. The main stem on mine is pretty thick at 1-2"+. I wonder if any offsets could come from that.

  • 8 years ago

    I would imagine that stem on yours is quite short? Mine is not as nicely growing as yours, one did have few mealies that I was able to get rid of. Stem is longer, also thick (probably skinnier than yours). No sign of any offsets...

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  • 8 years ago

    The leaves look to me like haworthia leaves and seem to be as difficult to propagate from. I'm constantly saving leaves of everything, I don't know why, and these have such thin insertion points that dry up.