Mutations are some of my favorites and you have some beautiful ones. I only have a E. lactea crest but its also the only one I've seen around here of either mutation.

Bernard

All very nice, I don't have any to post. I do like 'weirdos':)

Have a question about your Grapto Fred Ives - I have just a regular ones, they have longer leaves. Maybe crested grow more round leaves?

Here is a photo of one that grew from the leave - I don't think it will be a crest, even if it looks like it. The leaves are much longer:

Thanks guys!

Nic is your Euphorbia grafted? Or is it a naturally crested plant on its own?

Rina, it's always refreshing to see different forms of such plants. I don't think there's a specific for it, the rounder leaves shapes are probably the genetics of my plant. I don't believe it has anything to do with the cresting mutation.

I did a google search on the plant, and it gives an array of different shaped leaves in various crested forms.

https://www.google.com/search?q=crested+graptoveria+fred+ives&espv=2&biw=1920&bih=935&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiIlcmlkL7JAhXJ8z4KHd17C1EQsAQIGw#imgrc=POqdgtR61KSgtM%3A

That thick piece of meristem there is a baby crest, I would say it is on its way into becoming one.. Only time will tell if the stem swells up and crest or not.

Nice specimen though!

Wow Nicholas, that's a beautiful plant! I had always wanted a E. lactea, especially those with the milky white colors.

Rina, here's one for you

According to the seller, it's a crested Sedum. Incredibly odd but alluring, haven't seen one of these before. But it's definitely one of mother nature's fine work.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-ITEM-Crested-Mutated-Sedum-Dendroideums-Rare-/221963807412?hash=item33ae12eab4:g:Il4AAOSwKIpWCLpr

Bernard

Thanks...and I checked grapto F.I. - it isn't cresting, it is branching...Rina

I'm sorry to hear that Rina, it's still a great looking plant!

I will keep my eye for a crested gapto Fred Ives the next time I visit another show, and will snag you the best one if I see it.

Thanks Bernard...here it is.

Rina

I didn't know what crested was when I was trying to figure out what was up with this plant, the other picture is the plant it came from, I think it's an Echeveria, but don't know any further, can anyone identify it? Thanks

Loretta, your plant might be an Echeveria Secunda.

Is the 1st plant an offset from the 2nd one?

It seems like there is just 2 tight rosettes sharing a pot, it might slowly separate itself as 2 plants or have 2 branches but belong to one stem. Either way time will tell.

Cresting/Monstrous is a mutation process where the stem growth becomes erratic and grows to a deformed shape as compared to a regular stem.

Hope this helps..

Bernard

I thought the same, but looking at Loretta's first photo enlarged, it looks like there is some 'cresting' appearing in the center - what do you think?

Rina

Rina, it's quite hard to tell for sure as the plant is still young. A little more growth can confirm if it's just 2 rosettes or a true cresting is taking place.

Here's another beautiful specimen found on ebay from my dealer that sold me a variegated Echeveria.

This guy is an Echeveria Agavodies, variegated and crested. Talk about mutated monstrosity! PM is you are keen to buy it, I'll forward you the link. No one has bidded yet.. and it's starting at $15..

Bernard

thanks for your interest in helping me figure it out, I took a couple more pics of the plant, the stem has flattened out, for some reason, I'm having a hard time with pics, I'll post more after this.

Bernard

Thank you for thinking of me :) I like them a lot, problem is with shipping to Canada (and I think pretty cold to ship anything right now anyway?). I never bought anything off eBay...but there is first time for everything, right?

Loretta

The stem looks quite fat in the last photo - maybe it is crest after all. Mutation will affect the stem, that gets thick, irregular and somehow flat. You'll see as it grows, and pls. keep posting photos.

Rina

Hi , this is my first time commenting but I notice you have a Gapto. Crest. I was at a small nursery that was ran out of someone's home and neglected for quite some time there I was able to pick up 2 large but thin mangled tangled messes of a Gapto.Crest for $5 there is so much going on I not sure how to prun them for cosmetic reasons . The pictures are not doing it justice and I have so much of it

Also I'm in so ca I believe 9a

Thanks

Colle Gilliland

Rina - We are experiencing a strangely warm December weather here, probably due to global warming (not complaining!). We had the nicest weather in the 60s/17degree C this weekend that it felt like Spring! I happened to chance upon my neighbors rose bushes that surprisingly bloomed because of the confusing temperatures.

I think if the plant arrives within the next 2 weeks, it should be fine..

Colle - Welcome to the forum! $5 is a great deal! Now you have set yourself for a challenge to clean the plant. Firstly, I can't identify which plant is which. Perhaps labeling them with numbers would help. Secondly, you weren't kidding about the neglect. All the plants seemed extremely etiolated, hence the long skinny stems.

My advise would be, since you have so many, is to pot every plant into their own pots individually. That way you can better track their needs and progress.

I've never tried propagating a crested stem before -- usually when you snip a succulent of its stem, let it callous and place it into some soil, it will root and grow as a new plant.

You might want to experiment that on 1 or 2 plants, especially the really leggy ones.

Lastly, you will need lots of light/sun. They color up really well with more light.

Also note, not to over expose them with too much sun suddenly, they might get burnt and will look very unsightly.

I believe this little rescued Echeveria cutting of mine has grown deformed in its own way and can join the ranks of the crested and monstrosity.

Nice! Good job!

I love all of these! Would love to find a that Fred Ives! How delightful!!!

All you need is one leaf of Fred Ives - it grows so easily from leaves or cuttings and also from a stem.

Do the crested ones need any extra special care? I've found one but it's a bit pricey for me, and I will have to leave it unattended outdoors (coastal zone 9) for two months in the heat of summer. Would it survive on its own?

shapirolh, in general they do not need any special care, but they definitely need to be watered from time to time, at least weekly for your region. 2 months with intense heat in the summer might prove too much for a plant to survive on its own. You might have a fighting chance if you plant them in the ground, but it all varies if the plant can establish itself to reach for more water within the ground.

Rina, very nice! Maybe one day, you might just have a crest forming in one of your cuttings. As promised, I will keep a look out for these crested fred ives if I see them at the plant show next month.

Thanks, folks. I took the plunge and bought the crested Fred Ives - and a non-crested one for good measure. :) I'll plant them both in the ground and hope for the best. I have a neighbor who can water, and I come home for a week in the middle of that break and can water then too. Fingers crossed, and I'll post pictures of my progress!