Oh i'm sorry i meant to say shingle oaks are medium to large tree. I found online that there is a shingle oak tree at the library at the university at Greensboro.

The pictures online are confusing, they show bright red leaves. Hmmm. guess you can't go by everything you see online huh. I looked a little more online and i did find a pic that wasn't red. Still pretty though. I would like to have one on my lawn. Are they hard to keep neat?

There may be individual trees with good red fall color, but my experience has been similar to toro's... brown. And, there's always the possibility of introgression of other more reliably-colored species... I have a Q.x runcinata growing here - hybrid of Northern red X shingle oak... that has pretty decent red fall color every year.

Have seen an occasional nice specimen of shingle oak, but here, they're mostly scrubby things growing up in abandoned fencerows or ditchbanks.

Mine is huge and moving towards gnarly. It is neat because of its size. Beware photos of trees online. Some of them are from ppl who make money selling them.

Have an affinity for shingle oak that goes back to my youth (transplanted a volunteer sapling from an abandoned orchard to my parent's yard back in the 70's; now an impressive tree) . The species usually has clean, glossy foliage and attractive habit when grown in the open (though can be somewhat irregular, or "scrubby" as lucky mentioned). Have seen it thriving in wide ranging soil conditions, from clay to gravelly. Would probably be a very popular tree if it had good fall color and was cleanly deciduous. Perhaps someone will find an improved selection for production as a cultivar in the future?

hardister2, you might look your state's champion tree listing, I understand that Buncombe County has a 96' high Shingle Oak.

Shingle Oak is a favorite subject for taxonomy exams as an example of an oak with an unlobed leaf. Sometimes it can have nice, red fall color, also clean & glossy like arbordave said.

Did you ever see shingles made from a tree? I have, there is a lot of waste. It takes many trees to make a pallet of shingles.

Shingle Oak hangs onto its leaves in winter. So does the Asian introduction Sawtooth Oak which is less desirable.

Shingle Oak in Philadelphia:

Sam, interesting, I notice some black oaks like shingle and willow look similar to pin oak when young.

There is a nice shingle oak at Brookside Gardens in Kensington, MD. I thought it was some kind of live oak at first glance (in the summer).

I'll bet you can find one at the JC Raulston Bot. Garden.