I would prefer numeric temps. and spin speeds instead of general words.

Sorry but the European way seems to make more sense to me.

I wish my Electrolux gave actual temp. numbers and spin RPM.

I just know the top spin speed (Max) is 1400 RPM but I don't know what the steps down are.

Larsi or anyone else know?

@ george I would imagine the step downs in rpm spin are in 200. 1400, 1200, 1000.....

I hate this too. It's sad the general American public is too ignorant to know what proper washing temperatures are. And the large acceptance of the mantra cold water wash is the norm, warm water maybe occasionally. There's also the requirement of Energy Star mandated requirements that have dumbed down temperatures. Warm is now considered to be 75-85 degrees F? Hot is 105-120 at best? Machines with built-in heaters are the only way to maintain or increase water temps. I'd like to know what actual temperatures are--I'd probably be selecting hot most of the time :-)

The less information the consumer has, the more they can silently change things without anyone noticing! This is also important for future proofing the website and manuals in the event of changes.

This makes me sad. I don't use the 205 cycle often but it has saved a lot of clothing. May have to go back to boiling on the stove when my Asko finally dies.

Maybe Extra Hot is still 205F? I can't be sure from the manual.

I'm doubting extra hot is 205. There would be too much confusion and shrinkage complaints from the majority who don't read manuals. I've been doing some casual shopping. I'm not digging the size of the Miele Litttle Giants as my main laundry room is rather small. The newer family sized Miele s lack the voltage. I rarely hear about Bosch here. I love my Bosch DW but don't see many reasonable reviews of the laundry units.

The small Bosch washers are still 220v but they do not go to a 95C wash nor can they be configured cold-fill only, though they do have a higher-watt heating element.

I don't know of any active members on the forum who have a newer generation Bosch washer, but I would love to hear from someone who does. It's priced right and could be a good machine, but I'm curious about the cycles (when is the heater activated, etc).

http://www.abt.com/product/92424/Bosch-WAT28402UC.html

Edit: I submitted an inquiry to Bosch USA regarding cycle temperatures, guaranteed temps, and on which cycles the heater is activated. Will share when I get an answer.

Awesome Alex!

sandy...Cannot recommend the Miele Little Giant enough. It is not big. It is not small. If you choose... only cold fill. Temps guaranteed and precise. Cycles heat from 85 to near boil. Amazing rinse levels (if you choose). The best appliance I have ever owned!!

According to the Asko W6424 manual, Extra Hot is 205°F