Highly recommend you repost this in the Appliances forum.

We bought an electrolux slide in gas range with convection and warming drawer last year. So far, so good, but I'm not really a cook who would notice range variations.

We bought it at the Sears outlet for 40% off retail (I think) around $1000 because it was a floor model. A quick google search brought up black electrolux slide ins.

I love mixing metals and think copper and stainless would work well.

Any other suggestions?

We're very happy with our Bosch 800 Series HGI8054UC, but it's stainless, $1900, and we haven't had it a year yet, so it doesn't meet your criteria. It does have convection and a warming drawer.

Here's the Frigidaire Gallery Series FGGS3065PB in black, which lacks the warming drawer but has the other features you requested.

For the GE ranges, the extra height is just the oven vent at the very back, which you may or may not care about.

I've found some that have my criteria, but would like to hear from those that have experience with them....Really like it/ any problems with it. I also noticed that some don't go low enough to really simmer on a really low heat. I don't need super high heat(for wok), but have to have really low heat to simmer or go even slightly less than a simmer.

How big a hurry are you in? I bought a $1,500.00 range for $500.00 bucks; it was a Lowe's return. Nothing wrong; the customers didn't like the look. Let the local big boxes know you're looking and move fast if you get a call. Mine barely made it to the showroom floor, but my wife works there.

I absolutely loved my KA, but I agree with treb, look for floor models, returns, scan Craig's list. You'll find something you love too, and new isn't a big deal.

Ok, I wasn't in a real hurry, but wouldn't you know it, I put the chicken in the oven tonight and an hour later it still wasn't done. I realized there was hardly any heat. The heating element went out. Now the stove works and I can broil, but no more baking. We're not fixing it since we need a new one, so I guess I am in a hurry to find one now.

I just need something basic as long as it works well, has convection, the simmer burner actually simmers, rather than boils and comes in black.

Can anyone tell me any ranges that have low simmer that is truly a low simmer or any that have a simmer that actually doesn't get low enough?

Maybe your question is best answered by going to a showroom that will let you try out appliances and you can check the low simmer personally.

I was hoping to hear from anyone that has experience with it.

Copper hoods were a big deal a few years ago. Almost all of them sit atop a stainless range or range top. I can't think why it wouldn't look just as nice in your kitchen. Could you post an image of your space?

The gas ranges known for their low simmers are generally Wolf, Capital Culinarian, and Blue Star. Unless you find used or scratch-dent models they may be a little pricey. Another perennial favorite here, probably as much for looks as for its budget friendliness is the Bertazzoni range. The 30" Master series shown below goes for $2600.

My preference would be for a KA slide-in in stainless. There is a free standing 30" Black KA gas range with convection, by the way. It sells for around $1100 and has the code KFGG500EBL

Maybe an induction found on sale would be just as good, especially if you need a low simmer.

I have the Samsung slide in gas convection range with a warming drawer. We found it on clearance for $950. I think it only comes in stainless, but it has a really nice low simmer

I have a KA slide in with warming drawer, convection. I've never liked the smell from using the self cleaning for as long as they require (on my old GE) so that aqua lift doesn't bother me a bit. Simmer burner works great - power boil burner not as fantastically awesome as I thought it would be. It's not that fast but faster than my old electric so I'm happy. My old electric low was never ever low enough. No problems with this one. I haven't really used my warming drawer like I thought I might - forget to turn it on. The GE I know (the one I was looking at anyhow) actually gets hot enough to bake so it's more than a warming drawer. That would be handy.

When we were shopping I couldn't believe the cost to go from freestanding to slide in. We still did it because I didn't want the mess down the sides with my kids starting to cook but ouch! If you can go free standing you'll save a nice chunk.

Because I was changing from electric to gas and couldn't quite grasp all of the new terminology I went to a local store that had them hooked up so I could see how low is low and understand the difference between BTU's single ring triple ring blah blah blah. I really wanted the bosch but it was out of budget. I liked their burner set up. I can't for the life of me figure out why some of them are configured the way they are. That might be helpful for you to see and feel how low low is brand to brand.

My mom has the Frigidaire gas and she really likes it - MIL has the same one in electric and happy as well. Comes in black but no warming drawer though.

I seem to be hearing a lot about GE and Samsung being top ranges. I know about Samsung service not being very good and one of them(Samsung?), bakes uneven. Any other negatives anyone knows about with any of the GE or Samsung?...Any specific GE or Samsung ones(or other brands) I should avoid or ones I should consider?

They all have problems and negative reviews, I just want to know which most people are overall happiest with and have the least repairs and which have major problems so I can cross them off.

My last range was a GE electric and I don't have a single complaint. I would have bought another GE in gas but it was out of budget compared to the KA. It was a GE cafe that I was looking at. The lower end GE I did not like the burners as close together as they were - not possible to put pans next to each other so it was out of the question.

Good Luck!