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Peppers struggling

10 years ago

I'm trying to figure out which of 100 problems I may be having with these pepper seedlings/juvenile plants.

I'm in Virginia near DC. In may we had rain 15 days in a row and something like 20 of 22 days. Average high temperatures were in the 60s, and overnight we had many dips to 40-45 degrees. So, if nothing else, I'm thinking that caused some stressful conditions for warm weather loving plants. (With the 5:1:1 soil mix I'm using, I'm not as concerned about over watering as I am about the lack of sun and cool weather. Isn't that a good recipe for fungus and disease?)

Next up as a possible culprit are the pots I'm using. They came from a local nursery that went out of business. I rinsed them out, but did not go out of my way to ensure their sterility. The pots had been sitting around with dead plants in them for a fair amount of time, and I wonder if that may be the source of my problems.

Next is my soil mix. I tried to mix up my own batch of 5:1:1 using pine bark mulch from home depot. It didn't say anything about the mulch being anything other than pine bark, but I wonder if it is possible that the manufacturer may have treated the mulch with some kind of mild herbicide or something else hostile to pepper plants... But...

Some of my tomato and eggplants seem to be doing fine in the mix. Admittedly, I repotted both the tomatoes and eggplant when they were much larger than the peppers, and the smaller tomatoes I transplanted (later in the season - right at the beginning of the monsoon season) are struggling mightily.

I also worry about the leaf mulch I spread in my yard. Falls Church gives it away for free, and in an attempt to improve my clay soil, I took full advantage. I've put down 4-6 inches over about 1/2 my plat. And I've set the containers on top of the mulch. The mulch was cooking pretty well when I spread it, but I wonder if it attracts pest that may have spread to my container plants.

Finally, I'm wondering if what I'm seeing are flea beetles. I've also got some broccoli and romaine going, and some of those plants (as well as an eggplant or two) are riddled with holes. I've applied diatomaceous earth several times (most recently today as you can see in some of the pics) and an organic insecticide that uses thyme and clove oil as its active ingredients once.

Comments (8)

  • 10 years ago

    a few more photos; I'm not certain if it is clear, but many of my plants are a very bright lime green - almost yellow...

    and one other consideration: the healthiest pepper plant I have is in a large that I did not fill with 5:1:1, instead using (I think) MG Potting Mix (though it may have been Dr. Earth's too). That does, of course, increase my suspicion that it is my soil mix causing (or at least contributing) to my troubles.


  • 10 years ago

    By the way, I don't think DE is very effective against flee beetles. It is most effective against crawling insects. Flee beetles jump. But, flee beetles are not really a problem if your plants are healthy to begin with. My guess is that your pepper plants were planted out too soon. They should be at least 8-10 weeks old, and older is better because they grow much more slowly than tomatoes. Temps should never go below 55 at night and days should be in the 70s or above during the day. Plus, peppers really resent wet soil. I am just about to plant out my peppers today. I planted my tomatoes, which are the same age as the peppers, on April 30.

    Mike Stark thanked Ohiofem 6a/5b Southwest Ohio
  • 10 years ago

    My guess is too much rain....too little sunlight/heat. Peppers like it hot.

    Temps are heating up now, so you should see a drastic change in them.

    Mike Stark thanked Tammy Allen
  • 10 years ago

    It looks to me as if you have White Powdery Mildew (or mold)

    I recommend occasionally spraying the plant leaves with a mixture of 3/4 tablet of Aspirin to one gallon of water. Use uncoated tablets and spray about 2 or 3 times a week.

    This mixture also greatly improved health and strength of plants and promotes growth in seedlings and sprouts.

    Mike Stark thanked Jimmy Salen (SoMD Zone 7b)
  • 10 years ago

    @Jimmy Salen: I think you are seeing the DE dust and not powdery mildew. And the cure you recommend is not considered effective by most experienced gardeners.

    Mike Stark thanked Ohiofem 6a/5b Southwest Ohio
  • 10 years ago

    Just want to say thanks to everyone. This past week has been sunny and in the 80's and low 90's and the plants (for the most part) have perked up nicely, though some of the smaller plants have some catching up to do.

    I had surmised that sun would be better than my fluorescents, even on cloudy days. But I was woefully wrong, and especially so when the rain and chilly air camped out here for 3 weeks. As a result, some of the smaller seedlings have a lot more catch-up to do than the plants I moved outside once they were more established.

    So one lesson for next year is larger seedling containers. I had started these in 3" jiffy pots, but peppers seem to outgrow them and become rootbound pretty quickly. So next time, I'll be using my 2 gallon pots.

    (as an aside, does anyone know how containers are rated? I purchased 100 2 gallon containers thinking that they'd be about twice the size of a gallon milk jug. As it turns out, they appear to be the size of about a 1/2 gallon milk carton. What gives?)

  • 10 years ago

    That doesn't sound right. A 1gal nursery pot is around .75 liquid gal and a 2 gallon nursery pot is around 1.6 liquid gal.