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Higher water table - any basement issues?

10 years ago

We are in the process of buying a lot and then building with a 9 foot basement. According to the soil sample I received it appears the seasonal high water table is ~6.5 feet below the surface (assuming they measure from the bottom of the test pit - otherwise its only 9 inches!). From what I've read the suggestion is to build a basement a foot or higher above that seasonal water table. or 10 feet in our case. I know the foundation will usually stick out a bit from the ground, but are we going to have to elevate the house 3-4 feet?? If so, what is the expense for something like that? Overall the land is slightly sloping (maybe a 6 ft drop over 150 feet). I wasn't sure if it was typical for builders to grade an extra 1 to 2 higher around the house on normal construction anyway which would cut our gap in half. Thanks!

Comments (23)

  • 10 years ago

    Personally, I'd look at a different piece of land. It's simply too dangerous to build IN a high water table and hope your sumps are going to work in all instances, like power outages, freezes, etc. So I'd either look for new land, or be prepared to build up and bring in a lot of fill.

  • 10 years ago

    Or do what we do in FL which is to build on a slab.

  • 10 years ago

    Avoid water. We are at the top of a hill, and when it rains steadily for several days, the water table rises (even up here) and tHe water seeps up through the basement floor. All the houses up here have sumps...and some have managed to finish the basements, but they are musty. Weather is getting wackier and if you have one flooding incident, it ruins your whole finished basement.

  • 10 years ago

    Are you in the process as in closing on the lot or have an offer?

    A seasonal water table at 6.5' would make me very nervous if a basement was required. What happens during a wet year?

    Depending on your area you may need to be a certain height above the water table as well.


  • 10 years ago

    we are supposed to close on the lot in ~3 weeks. Our builder is going to do a lot walk in about 2 weeks, I haven't been able to speak with the builder yet and get there thoughts as we just discovered this today.

  • 10 years ago

    We have high water tables here (not sure of the exact depth) and sumps are commonplace as are finished basements. I think that's completely foolhardy b/c even if your basement is dry the day you finish the house it's only a matter of time before it's not.

    I'm insisting on a basement b/c we do occasionally get tornadoes, but we plan no living or finished space down there. My husband will have a shop with everything elevated. We'll have a sump and a backup. We'll waterproof as much as we can afford, but I know we'll get water or dampness eventually. And ripping out flooded carpets and drywall is not my idea of fun. ever.

    So I suggest you think carefully about how you will use a basement and if this is not an acceptable way to live, then consider how to get out of the land deal.

  • 10 years ago

    Where in the country are you located? Do you need a basement? Can you do a crawl space or slab?

  • 10 years ago

    We are in Central OH - really just wanted the basement for storms and cheap extra sq footage

  • 10 years ago

    Slabs devalue a house here, because basements are the norm.

  • 10 years ago
    last modified: 10 years ago

    Nic,

    Commercial buildings built in high water tables all the time. Residential - I would Avoid. How do you expect sump pit installed in water, pump could burn out removing water with the high water table from under the foundation slab. Raising foundation may be an option. Pour 5' stem walls and 4' wood framing above. This would allow nice daylight basement windows. I would never, eventually your foundation will develop a crack and water will leak. In addition to musty smell.

    I know this is not what you want to hear but may be even drop basement height to 8'. Split 4' under ground and 4' above. Your frost like is 36", so you should be fine with 48" stem walls. Up up up and away from water.

  • 10 years ago

    Check on the master grading plan as well as there may be a set elevation for your house. Suggest checking into that as well.

  • 9 years ago

    We have a similar dilemma. Plans to build a nine foot basement with only one foot above ground level. The soil boring test came back with high seasonal water table at 100" (8'4"). Any ideas how we can make this work? Can we get an 8 ft ceiling with two feet above ground level?

  • PRO
    9 years ago

    If the only reason for a basement is severe weather--tornadoes--then forget the basement, build slab on grade and include in the design a "safe room" consisting of a poured in place and reinforced 8-inch walls and a similar roof slab. Make it large enough for the family to sleep at night using folding cots. Entry by a solid core door with proper hinges and latching. When not in use it makes a wonderful storage closet and it's always cool in there! And it's a lot cheaper than a basement.

  • 9 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    Thank you for responding, Virgil. We actually need the basement for various living areas. The question we are dealing with is how high the house will have to be above the foundation to accommodate at least an eight foot ceiling.

  • PRO
    9 years ago

    My comment above was directed to Nic Rogers, who wrote, "...We are in Central OH - really just wanted the basement for storms and cheap extra sq footage..."

    If your really don't need a basement, don't build it.

    Birdie, you are taking a major risk for a wet basement sooner or later.

  • 9 years ago

    Our land has a high water table. Hit water at 4.5 feet. We live in the midwest and most homes have basements. Decided to forego the certainty of a wet basement and all that entails and built on a slab. Geothermal, radiant floor heat. Our main floor laundry room is also a storm room with 8 inch ICF walls and poured ceiling. I don't think I would consider a crawl space either as that would probably have moisture issues as well.

  • 9 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    Thanks, Brian. That's what I was afraid of. We are at the end of our planning stage so this is pretty disturbing... My builder says the footings need to be two feet above the water table. The problem is we are trying to build as an addition to our old house- to make place for our elderly parents to move in. So if we can't align the two living spaces with a minimum of steps the whole plan is no good!

  • 9 years ago

    Coming from NJ where basements is the norm, I finally gave up on my dream of building a massive basement with 12' ceilings (for a couple of bowling lanes and more) due to a high water table at 3.5' in places. I also considered building the basement on grade however was finally dissuaded by DW and my builder. Tecnologically it is feasible to build a basement in a swimming pool however requires engineering, materials and cost, none of wich would add value to the home in PNW.

  • 9 years ago

    Our thinking for building a slab rather than a basement here in MN where basements are the norm. Having to disclose frequent water issues upon the eventual sale of the house would devalue the house far more than not having a basement!

  • 9 years ago

    We are going to do another soil boring and then decide what to do. Thanks for all the input!

  • PRO
    9 years ago

    Another soil boring will give you the water table on that day. Do some research on how often and how much the water table changes--especially in the flood of '03, or whenever!

  • 9 years ago

    It's not really a flood prone area. The 100" was seasonal high, based on the engineer's examination of the earth. So that would mean the highest level of the year is around that level.