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Question about Turface

10 years ago

I'm in SW Florida. Does anyone have suggestions about where to get Turface MVP (not All Sport and not the Napa 8822 product)? I learned about gritty mix here at GardenWeb (of course) and have had good luck with a bark-free mix of just Turface and screened chicken grit, plus Foliage Pro. The closest John Deere store is 25 miles from me -- and when Deere sold out and the name changed to SiteOne Landscape, the Turface MVP product went away. Now, SiteOne only sells Turface All Sport. The man at the counter assured me "they are the VERY SAME products." But they're not…not for plants anyway.

I screen twice to get a pretty consistent 1/8" size, and a tad larger if I can get it. Most of my plants are small (4" pots) so I like that size -- it doesn't compact in the pots and kill roots. BUT -- Turface All Sport is mostly tiny pieces. I bought a 50 lb bag for $17 and got, at best, 30% of usable product. I almost wouldn't mind the expense -- but screening all that product and getting barely 30% usable Turface is a pain. Anyone have ANY suggestions for a larger water-retentive Turface substitute or where to get the old MVP? Thanks, folks.

Comments (12)

  • 10 years ago

    Because Turface is such a pain to find and even more annoying to sift, I have since stopped using it. I use pumice instead, which I order online. I have tiny plants in tiny pots so this works for me.

    Pagan

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  • 10 years ago

    Why don't you want the NAPA product? I find turface very easily at Advance Auto Parts as oil absorbent, and I bet you could find it at Auto Zone.

    robinswfl thanked mesembs
  • 10 years ago

    palmsandsnow -- I have not had success with the NAPA product. That's what I started with, before Turface MVP -- and I found it broke down in the pot pretty easily and turned dusty or mushy. I do have an Auto Zone nearby -- so I will check into their oil absorbent product. Thank you for the tip.

  • 10 years ago

    Amazon!!! They definitely have turface mvp available, and if you're a prime member, they have it prime so free two day shipping :)

    robinswfl thanked Missy
  • 10 years ago

    I have used turface and now swear by pumice as Pagan has mentioned. I don't know where he gets his pumice but I get it from General Pumice Supply. They include shipping and send out a very clean 15# bag for $25.00 It comes in a few different particle sizes. It used to be $20.00! And now if you purchase 8 bags, you get 10% off. So if you can get in a group situation, it might be workable

    robinswfl thanked bikerdoc5968 Z6 SE MI
  • 10 years ago

    Pumice holds about half the moisture of Turface, but that can easily be adjusted for with the mix ratio. =)

    robinswfl thanked ewwmayo
  • 10 years ago

    Robin, I found the same product, Turface All Sport, at Site One in FM. I have been tempted to contact the baseball fields in Fort Myers to see if they have the MVP on hand. I am assuming they would buy it in bulk. But like you, I cannot find it around here. We're probably looking in the same places!

    There's a bonsai shop in FM called Wigerts. They have a very nice mix with scoria, bark fines and calcined clay. But it is too pricey for my needs.

    I have not tried Auto Zone's product, but NAPA seems to be failing faster these days. I wonder if they changed their 'recipe.' Our heat and moisture tend to make the product break down in about a year. Here's what was left in a pot, and caked around the roots.

    And I have not found any pumice around here, either. So I am making do with the Turface All Sport. (BTW, I paid $24.)

    Let us know if you find the MVP locally! Maybe I'll check the Tampa area and get my son to grab a bag for me if it is available.

    robinswfl thanked Crenda 10A SW FL
  • 10 years ago
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    The pumice place looks most promising. With free shipping, it's quite tempting! I bought a big bag of the Safe T Sorb, but as soon as i'm out, I'll try General Pumice Products! (She grows succulents too - how can I resist?)

    robinswfl thanked LH On the Move
  • 10 years ago

    Bikerdoc and ewwmayo -- thanks. I already use pumice from General Pumice Products and I like it a lot. Good company, good product. But as you point out, it dries out a little faster than Turface. And in the hot Florida summers -- sometimes a lot faster. I have also had a small problem with it compacting -- not sure why, because I screen carefully, but I lost two plants where it just turned to "cement." Probably my fault. When I first started using Turface MVP, I screened out pieces that I labeled "too large to use," but kept them. Lo and behold -- I ended up using them and grit that was similarly "too large" -- and mixing both with old and dry cactus soil, and I today have an old Sans that was once dying now thriving in that "too large" old, dry mix! You never know.

    Crenda -- I'm in Venice, so I use the SiteOne store in Sarasota….same products as FM, I presume, and probably Tampa too. Could you post if you do contact baseball fields and they use MVP? I would drive to FM, about an hour away, to get MVP! For now, it's just cheaper for me to buy a 50 lb bag of All Sport (I think I paid about $19 or $20 last time) and screen the daylights out of it for bigger pieces. BTW -- when I used NAPA, my pots looked very much like yours -- baked, crusty. The breakdown took less than 15 months in all cases.

    Thanks to everyone -- sometimes I feel really neurotic getting as wrapped up with mixes and the size of Turface as I do. But -- I'm glad I'm not the only one who does this! Thanks again. I have learned SO much from all of you.

  • 10 years ago

    Thanks, Melody! I see that have stores in both Fort Myers and Sarasota. And they DO carry MVP.

  • 10 years ago

    Thank you so much, Melody -- I am going to visit the Sarasota store on Friday and get MVP -- maybe 2 bags! Thanks again!