Chill hours are the least of your worries. How hot does it get there? Poms need heat to ripen good fruit.

We are in a sheltered valley so don't really get any fog. It doesn't get all that hot though. Summer highs are probably high 70s to mid 80s with the occasional low 90s here and there. The planting spot is just SE of the house in full sun all day. Is there any hope of sweet fruit at these temps or should I give up the thought?

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I would say yes. Look for varieties that ripen around the time you get your high temps.

We planted 'Wonderful' and 'Kashmir' couple of years back, each one set some fruit this year. We're about 15 miles south of you and 15 degrees warmer though. The nursery recommended 'Sweet' pomegranate for cooler summers.

They get sweet in San Jose. My cousin had one. I've never tried to grow one..I have seen them as small tree's around town. Nice looking.

Thanks, I'll look into those varieties.

While I'm on the topic, any chance I can have success with a hachiya persimmon? I've read they need heat to ripen, but for astringent persimmons does "ripen" mean go from green to orange on the tree or from orange to edible? I've always harvested them when they are rock-hard orange and let them go soft on the counter or by a freeze/thaw. I've seen several fuyus growing in the neighborhood but not seen how well those have ripened.

Again,never grown them myself Rhino...but I see a ton of tree's in Hayward. Persimmons are Asian delights here. I would think you are warm enough. You dont sound like a hard core fogbelt where moss covers everything in shade.

Here's my Asian friends Persimmon tree's. First pic is Loquat with Avocado,Persimmon to far right-

In both Napa and Danville, "Parfianka" has won the precocious and productivity award. Most appear ready to harvest and taste tests will follow very soon. My "Angel Red" seemed to turn red a bit earlier. Eversweet has grwon into a larger tree than the AR and Parfianka, but only a few small fruit so far (after 1.5 years).

I'd like to echo Parker's note - get the earliest pom you can and plant in the sunniest, hottest part of the yard possible. Good luck!

A trip to the nursery resulted in an overcrowding of my camry. Now my 2 biggest issues will be explaining this to my wife and finding appropriate spots in the yard.

Suebelle sapote on the left; Sweet pomegranate on the right.

Hachiya in the back (barely fit in the car); cherimoya 'knight' in the foreground.

Are they from Regan? Do you mind sharing how much they cost?

Yes, not the cheapest for the sapote & cherimoya. They were $70 each and the pom and persimmon were $30 each I think. There was also a sale on non-citrus, non-tropical fruit trees. I've seen white sapote for sale at HD once or twice for less but they were smaller and kind of ill cared for.

Now I remember why I didn't buy the Cherimoya-lol. I should buy a Hachyia. i like those much better then the crunchy Fugu. But,the wife likes the Fugu. The Hachia is like a tropical fruit,Fugu to me is like if nothing else grows..

But,plenty love them.

My wife and I are the reverse. Regan had a lot of both kinds and they were all good sized with a couple of hanging fruit on them. I was surprised on how reasonable the price was.

hey stan, i need to figure out where to plant the suebelle. 3 possible spots.

A) Close to the W side of the house (sheltered, partial sun, wetter, but not good if roots will destroy the foundation)

B) Slight slope near the fence near neighbor's pool (more sun, exposed, not good if the tree will drop a lot of leaves on my neighbor)

C) Font yard away from the house (fully exposed, full sun, drier, more room to grow).