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Good Crabapples....

9 years ago
last modified: 9 years ago

Here is Thean's writup on the Kerr

Cultivar:- Kerr (M352)

Parents:- Dolgo x Haralson

Origin:- 1952, Experimental Farm, Morden, Manitoba

Tree:- Broadly upright ( rounded ). New wood dark brown almost
without pubescent. Lenticels are small and scattered. Bark is olive.
Hardy and moderately vigorous.

Leaf:- Thick, glossy, waved, twisted. Serrations rounded with smooth underside and red veins.

Flowers:-

Fruits:habit: fruits at an early age, moderate cropper

size: 4.5 cm

shape: ovate to round with deep, acute and fairly wide cavity; basin is wide but shallow.

colour: attractive solid dark purplish red or maroon and heavy
bloom; yellow to creamy white flesh often freckled with red especially
near the skin

Peduncle - medium

Core - median, closed and clasping

Calyx - long, recurved and closed

Calyx tube - conical

Stamen - median

Lenticels - white, fine but prominent

maturity: late September

texture: crisp, fine and very juicy

taste: sweetly tart and slightly acidic, aromatic; very tart when under ripe

uses: good for dessert and jelly; excellent canner

storage: excellent keeper, till March (27 weeks)

Other remarks:- Written as the best all rounder by most experts. I find it tastes better after a light frost.

Comments (15)

  • 9 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    Another write up from Thean on a good old crab which he growth, very rare, I tasted it at the show, have asked for wood, he said that his is diseased.. perhaps some of you might find another source.

    Name:- B.F. #135 (Slide # 020110)

    Parents:- Unknown

    Origin:- Brooks Horticulture Research Station

    Growth:- vigorous, rounded tree.

    Flowers:- white fragrant...BF 135 has longer peduncle and petals then Kerr, resulting in a beautiful tree
    when in full bloom. There are normally 5 to 6 flowers to a cluster.
    Floral buds are red becoming white at the balloon stage.

    Habit: tendency towards biennial unless heavily thinned

    Size: large for a crab; 4.5 cm to 5 cm

    Shape: truncate, some are obovate;

    Cavity: - russetted, comparatively wide, shallow, acuminate.

    Basin: - is very wide and shallow, most are beady at the bases of calyx.

    Colour:
    when exposed is very dark red; maybe russetted. Flesh is yellow with
    pink or apricot between the peduncle and core and core line if
    properly ripen.

    Lenticels: small and few but fairly prominent at basin

    Peduncle - short to long, mostly the latter

    Core - median, closed, clasping

    Calyx - upright, closed

    Calyx tube - urn

    Stamen - marginal

    Maturity: early to mid-September

    Texture: fine, tough but crisp

    Taste: sweet with a hint of sour and slightly tart thereby masking its juiciness.

    Uses: dessert, liqueur, juice (red) (One of the best for juicing.)

    Storage: excellent (have stored till January without loss of texture and flavor.)

    Other remarks:-

    * One of the best crabapple or applecrab I have seen. It’s a terrible shame to lose this selection.

    *
    I believe there are only three plants left in Alberta. One is in CDCN,
    the other is in Olds College. I won’t say my is a tree since I have a
    branch that was grafted.

    * I don’t why it’s labeled as crabapple when it is bigger than some applecrabs. I have seen fruits more than 5 cm.

    * Skin becomes waxy with prolong storage. Very firm meat that does not break down when baked.

    * Plant has what appears to be MLO infection. Wonder if fruit size will increase if MLO is eliminated.

    Thean's B.F. #135



    Does anybody know how to edit in first page...can't seem to see any edit button.

  • 9 years ago

    If Trailman is thinned the apples are a lovely size, this tree should be more widely grown. The fruit becomes exceptionally juicy and sweet as the temperature drops.

  • 9 years ago

    Interesting information on the Kerr crabapple. He lived in his later years up near us at the lake. My mother in law and some of the other farmers around here would get regular visits from Les Kerr and he would plant all sorts of apples, grapes etc. for them . He was always willing to plant and teach.

    She also remembers that his small lake property was full of seedlings and plants that he was working on, and he used to show her his little apples and talk of how he was trying to create a red fleshed one. Her fondest memory is how he used to grow his rhubarb on rafts floating in the water. Not sure if this was because of lack of space, or to get better access to the sun.

    Your search for the BF #135 makes me think that I maybe should visit some of these older farms and ask if he planted any fruit for them. I might find some varieties I didn't know still existed.

  • 9 years ago

    For
    many years I've been looking for good applse and based on many experts on this gardenweb I
    chose Norkent, Northland, Honeycrisp and Trailman. I got Trailman from Boughen
    nursery, and for the last 3 years I got fruits exactly like the pictures Konrad
    posted before, BUT it's very sour and prone to aphids. I keep scratch my head
    whenever I see Konrad's picture about Trailman crabapple. The young fruits
    color also turns from dark red to light yellow/pink, exactly like Konrad's
    picture. The tree grows fast and it's big now. This spring I think I have to
    graft some other apple to it as the fruits are too sour.

    I
    happened to have Kerr on my property. At first I thought it is too sour, but
    around mid September the fruits turn sweet, juicy and aromatic. I’ve tasted many
    apples, and so far Kerr has been the best apple I've tasted. To my surprise the
    taste is far better than store bought apple.

    Anybody
    has experience about Mustang and Sapalta Cherry Chum? Are they hardy to zone 3
    and disease resistant?

    I’m
    in zone 3a. Thank you all.

  • 9 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    Well, ..not sure why your Trailman is sour, deffinatley a sweet apple, perhaps too much acid for your taste bud. Makes awesome juice.

    Sapalta and Mustang cherry plum are hardy for your zone.

  • 9 years ago

    I used to think that my Trailman was sour, then I realized I picked them too early. They can hang on for a few cold snaps and then they are wonderfully sweet.

  • 9 years ago

    Thank you Konrad and ubro(2a) for your inputs.

    Konrad and ubro(2a), I think you’re lucky to have sweet
    Trailman, but mine, I guess there is some mutation by some chance. I let 14
    people try mine Trailman apple and no one cannot finish one. To me, Goodland apple
    is still much sweater than the "Trailman I have". I wish I live in your area so I could have some Trailman scions from you.

    My Northland ripens in mid Aug when my friend’s
    friend Nothland apple starts to fall at the beginning of Aug., and behind my
    back ally there are 2 huge poplars, 1 sheds leaves in Oct, the other sheds
    leaves in Nov. and I hate that because I have to clean the leaves 2 times, lol.

    Another case: I propagate African Violet by
    putting one leaf in water. The stem produces many tiny plants in water and their
    flowers (from the stem of 1 leaf) have similar colors but in different patterns. So in
    general they are very much the same but still have some differences.

    Most propagation has not been done in an
    absolute condition, except tissue culture, so there are some variations in the
    process, and I think that’s why there are some small differences between each
    plant.

    About Sapalta and Mustang cherry plum, are they resistant to black knot?

    Thank you.

  • 9 years ago

    I've never seen black knot on cherry plums...only got it in the choke cherries.

  • 9 years ago

    Konrad, thank you for your response.

  • 8 years ago

    Picked some Trailman...makes awesome juice!


  • 8 years ago

    I picked mine and turned most of them into apple relish, and awesome delight when served with ham.

  • 8 years ago

    I picked my Noret crabapples today. They are larger than they've ever been here, and fantastic flavor. I understand they're very similar in many respects to to Trailman, maybe don't keep quite as well? I think they'd make fantastic juice. Much better than Parkland; I think I might replace my Parkland tree with another Noret.

    I also have a Kerr crabapple tree that is loaded this year. We like those a lot, too, especially after a few frosts. Keep well in the fridge, so the kids snack on them for months.

  • 8 years ago

    I had Noret many years ago...didn't think it was special, think it got soft fast, now I have another to get rid of is Norson, getting soft/mushy quickly.

  • 8 years ago

    The Noret may get soft fast, but they never last that long around here, so I wouldn't really know!

    Could the quality of apples vary depending upon where they are grown? For instance, could the colder nights here (usually 1 C to 6 C in the summer) make the Noret taste better and the Norkent taste blander?




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