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Labor only prices to do all electrical

9 years ago

Wondering how much it will run me to have all the electrical done to my 3500sf house. The house is a 2 story dried in and framed only. I need a 200 amp service (I think) and all electrical done new. I will buy all materials for job I am just wondering what it will cost labor wise. I live in Texas. Thanks in advance

Comments (13)

  • 9 years ago

    There are too many variables to provide an accurate estimate and prices can vary widely even within the same town. Your best bet is to get several estimates from licensed contractors, ideally getting references from people you know.

  • 9 years ago

    Good luck finding someone reputable who will be okay with you buying all of the materials. That adds a huge headache to the project and the good electricians will probably just move on to a different job.

  • PRO
    9 years ago

    Sounds like you want the cheapest price possible and are willing to load circuit breakers to their maximum opening rating? Quality craftsmanship never mixes outlets and lights on the same circuit breakers . The reason is if an outlet trips a breaker than there goes your lights also. Having dedicated breakers for microwaves, dishwashers, clothes washers, refrigerators and other large loads saves not only the life of the appliance but also saves on your utility billings. As for your labor only bid those are usually priced pre openings. Example how many outlets and types along with switching, lights and all openings required to meet you minimum inspection to your local area. If you are trying to lowball the material good luck 2nd grade material will not last the test of time. An example is aluminum wiring in the service takes twice the size that copper does for the same amperage rating and will not last as long as copper does. www.dbelectric.us

  • 9 years ago

    I'm not sure what you mean by 'all materials'. I supplied the recessed housings/trims, light switches, receptacles, wall plates and boxes. He (licensed electrician) supplied all the wiring, circuit breaker boxes, etc. 200 amp service, 2 panels in a 3200 square foot house. I'm in NJ so I imagine Texas would be quite a bit cheaper, and also a split-level so I imagine that's more complex than wiring a simpler layout. Paid around $14k.

  • 9 years ago

    freeoscar,

    I'm just curious.

    I can understand supplying light fixtures because there is such a variety and it's a good idea to get exactly what you want.

    But why did you feel the need to supply the switches, receptacles, wall plates and boxes?

  • 9 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    There is a ton of variety in that stuff too, and I didn't want there to be misunderstandings or for him to go cheaper than what I wanted. No need to pay him for his time and capital spent purchasing that stuff when I was happy to do it myself. All that stuff is sold at big box and authorized internet sites, so the pricing was probably better than he'd get from his electrical supply house. Did the same thing for my plumbing fixtures. I did run my choices by him in case he had a particular thought or previous good/bad experience with them, but I only used big names (Halo, Lutron, Leviton) so it wasn't an issue.

    Oh, and for the boxes I wanted extra deep ones which are necessary for some smart light switches, so I bought them so I knew I was getting the right ones.

  • 9 years ago

    There isn't enough info to tell you a price. If I were doing you job I would be hesitant to have you supply all of the parts. While it is certainly possible it creates an extra level of difficulty. The problems happen when parts are short and then I'm waiting for the homeowner to supply more. In most cases you are not going to save the money you think due the pricing levels a contractor can get.

    On a house that size I would plan on 2 200 amp panels for the main service.


    D B Electric I just don't know what you know. I regularly can't follow what you type because it makes no sense. I see you respond in threads and I feel like you are just trying to spam your business. I know that I don't respond much but I have to call you out on this one. Please show me a source where the 4/0 aluminum feeder is not going to last. If aluminum didn't work/last as a conductor please tell that to the power grid that the utilities built. Please don't spread misinformation.

  • PRO
    9 years ago

    Chance

    Wow all your kind words thanks for nothing. What I was trying to get across was that you have to double the wire size when using aluminum wire over copper wire. If that is the case than other materials like conduits for risers would also need to be larger. These are not my words read any NEC book. Get so much as a nick in direct burial aluminum wire and it is good as toast because it will not last or stand the test of time. Special oxide paste also has to be used on aluminum wire or again it is good as toast. Utilities and power grids use aluminum over copper because of cost savings and lighter weight along with other factors.

    So listen well I do not spread misinformation and if my words make no sense then stop reading what I write it is a free world last that I knew.


  • 9 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    Talk to the electrician and note what special items you want and if you can provide them. This is the easiest way to break the ice.

    I dont see any problem with this, there are plenty of special switches and outlets, light fixtures are obvious you would pick those. As far as wiring, nuts, and staples, etc you should expect him to charge you for misc items and wiring. There is not much upcharge to these items. They may order a large roll of it and get a little discount per foot but not much less than what you would pay. Copper is copper, there is a specific price for it. If you want to keep all the old wiring for the scrap yard you need to tell them that upfront.

  • 9 years ago

    D B you do spread misinformation in your original statement. You present yourself as a professional and people may believe what they read here. I never contested that aluminum wire would have to be larger than copper for the same amperage. However, it can often be run in the same size of conduit and if you do have to upgrade the cost difference is hardly ever more than to savings using aluminum. Aluminum is that much cheaper. The way you said that aluminum would not last as long as copper is plain false.

    Direct burial wiring is a special case and situation. I've installed direct burial aluminum(although rarely because I prefer all wire in conduit) with no problems. In a normal house(in my area) situation your underground from the utility will have to be in conduit. The overhead mast will be conduit. Wire of either type properly installed in either case will last for decades.



  • PRO
    9 years ago

    Chance.

    Have a Happy Holidays and stop this bickering about aluminum wire as it will never last as long as copper. Yes you may get lucky and get decade use out of the aluminum over copper. But consider this also that during the 60's & 70's when manufactured housing used aluminum wiring for outlets, lighting, switching aka wiring harness it failed and is no longer used for that purpose. Personally I prefer 100% copper and recommend it to all my clients needs and uses to there local codes and inspections.

    So slam me all you want with your misinformation, spam remarks which are totally uncalled for. I leave quality craftsmanship and have over 43 years of residential, commercial and industrial electrical experience.

  • 9 years ago

    DB,

    I was under the impression that the problems with aluminum wire used for branch circuits was more of a function of the connection between the wire and device, rather than with the wire itself. In other words, the wire didn't fail but rather the connection would come loose (for several reasons) generating heat and possibly fire.

    Obviously aluminum wire is used for service entrance in millions of American homes. I can't recall reading here or anywhere else of anyone having a problem with a failure because the wire didn't "last." Certainly you are entitled to have a preference for copper and if you can convince your customers that it's worth the extra cost, good for you.