IMO it just knocks down the suds. Seriously, when this happens to me, I add a few (in your case several) pieces of dirty clothes in there and run another wash cycle. The sids will attach to the dirt on the added stuff and rinse out. . Saves water and wear & tear on the clothes and works for me every time.

Wow...FS will knock down the suds but it won't remove residue from clothes....what were you washing? You have no choice but to add more rinses. But I am curious as to what you were washing?

Thank you. I never thought of that. I don't remember ever having such a suds issue. I am passing this detergent on and going back to my Ariel.

Mama I was washing a load of old tees, socks and panties on hot (for me that is about 110 degrees). The tees always seem to have some deodorant residue and the socks and panties are the normal one day wear. It was a full load in an old machine that uses more water. I even added about 3 quarts of hot (boiling) water to get the temps up. So even extra water.

The funny things is the suds level during the wash portion of the load was less than the rinse.

I remember the first time I used Persil liquid. .it had just hit the US Market and son Matt came in all excited bringing me 3 or 4 of the huge spouted jugs..I of course had sheets to wash and was excited to use this new detergent, now remember I was using the ole Roper ( Whirlpool) TL, full fill. Think I used way less than half cap since those caps were HUGE...OMG suds out my &$#@!*...I know I rinsed, full fill deep rinses more than 5 times. I donated a few jugs to the shelter than discovered this stuff was amazing as long as I dosed correctly AND only use it on heavily soiled loads. My sheets are washed to often to have much soil.

Heather I had to laugh at your comment of socks and panties being the normal one day wear. HAHA

I agree about returning it. Go any lower and you will lose the enzymes.

I also seem to recall Persil may have changed when the color of the label changed, its much less sudsy now..maybe you got the older more sudsy formula?

Never had that issue with mine. But I stopped using liquid to wash cotton knits -- my loads are usually Russel warm ups, panties, tshirts etc. The pods or tabs rinse better on those loads and on towels. No more liquid with towels for me either.

EXACT thing when I tried American Persil liquids or even Pearls. I could do 10 rinses and still suds!! So sorry!!!

I rinsed two more times with added pair of corduroy pants and still had a tiny amount of bubbles but water looked clear. I gave up finished the load and dried everything. The fragrance is very strong. Hope I don't get a rash from that darn stuff. Next time I do a load with those same items, no detergent and see what happens. I guess NYC water is very soft.

I'm interested to try out this and 2in1. I haven't had any issues so far with Pearls using the he line on the cup in my Elux 617.

Pearls ok as far as suds go...the liquid is best used on heavy soils.

Mama I hardly ever have heavy soils. Even in summer it's normally only sweat.

>>>"The funny things is the suds level during the wash portion of the load was less than the rinse.">>>

That is how it is with our Miele FL. The second rinse is usually even worse than the first, if there is a sudsing problem. I keep a flashlight in the laundry room so I can check.

Umm, that is interesting. I wonder about the science of the over sudsing. I'm thinking maybe after the rinse all the dirt and oils are gone so whatever detergent residue is left just suds like crazy.

Heather is your label a silverish color or white?

It's a white circle with a silver edge. Why?

This is interesting. I often use Persil liquid in my Speed Queen FL and have to be very careful with the amounts. I was careless with towels once, and had to do four rinses, but that did take care of it. I always have to do two rinses, minimum, to get it out. That said, I do like Persil.

100% agree with Cavimum! USA Persil (and there is handful of other over-sudsers) has more suds during the rinses than usually during the wash portion. Rinse 1 will be sudsy, Rinse 2 worse, 3, 4, 5...... Strange!

I'm telling y'all....Tide he TURBO Original Scent liquid. LOW, LOW sudsing, clean and clear rinses, cleans very well and the scent left is light, soft and clean!!!

Proof that suds are not a reliable indicator of how well the detergent is rinsed out.

IMO, the spinning between wash and rinse creates a foam that you wouldn't normally see in the wash bath. I would say that if the detergent smell isn't overwhelming when the cycle completes, put the clothes in the dryer and move on.

MRB

Referencing the picture above, the water seems to have surface tension to bead on the door glass so it's apparently not "soapy" even with the foaming present. Unlikely that there's an appreciable amount of detergent remaining after 6 rinses (drains, fills, presumably several extraction spins).

Heather STPP will really help with this.

I too have had more suds in the rinse portion than the wash. It mostly occurs when using HEC detergents and for the most part, in the winter. Sometimes when washing towels with he turbo powder the second rinse still has suds,more than the first rinse. I am extremely careful not to over dose and probably under dose.

beaglenc - I suspect that the hardness/softness of our own water supply sometimes varies, depending on rainfall, etc. That might be the case in your area, too.

I generally use very low sudsing detergents (GG pods, Tide HE Turbo, Persil powder, All pods) but when I do use Persil liquid, I agree with Dadoes above: if the water itself is crystal clear, not milky or murky, I don't care much about some surface bubbling. Three deep rinses in the Little Giant followed by an extraction at 1400rpm means "rinsed enough" for me.