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Some suggestions on what to replace this maple tree with

Hi, so I am all throughout these forum with questions about different areas of my yard lol. But now where we are cutting this tree down this week most likely, I'd like to have a replacement tree for this area so I get it in the ground before the weather gets too hot. I live in Central MA which is considered zone 5b/6 depending on which site I check my zone in. I want something faster growing, ornamental value a must! I want seasonal interest with height around 20'-30' and a good wide spread of around 15' or so...weeping characteristics would be nice, but not a necessity. I've considered 'Prarie Fire' crabapple, weeping pink cherry, and eastern redbud... but don't want to fuss over it too much if it's a type that's susceptible to disease etc. so please give some ideas would love to know what you think...also please note I have tri colored beech trees growing outside of the fence, they've been there for around 4 years now and they seem the same exact size as they were when planted..so I need something that is going to shoot up rather quickly because I'm rather impatient and sick of having twigs for trees..I already have a flowering kousa dogwood tree...which I like, but again seems a little to slow of a grower for me. Here is the tree I'm removing and the area the new one will go...I'm on a corner lot, on a dead end Rd, with a cut through road on the other side of my house that everyone turns down, while my house being upon a slope with huge picture windows for everyone to look into as they turn up the street..so something that would provide a little screening would be nice as well

Comments (14)

  • 9 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    If you plant the replacement in the center of the lawn or otherwise not on the corner it will have more room, appear more as a featured specimen. And not block the visibility of drivers and pedestrians at the corner. Also it will be between you and the house across the street - you will end up looking out the window at your tree instead of the neighbor's house.

    And cars.

    The particular crab you mentioned has been rendered obsolete by a poor summer foliage appearance. Otherwise crabs are something that would be showy in bloom, generally comparatively quick to size up yet small growing. The main thing with these is to choose kinds that are disease resistant. The one at the link below does not grow like a weed but otherwise has superior attributes, with the lack of a lot of long, whip-like shoots probably being one of these actually.

    The U.S. National Arboretum presents Malus 'Adirondack', an elegant testament to the versatility and landscape value of the ornamental crabapple

    http://www.usna.usda.gov/Newintro/adirond1.html

  • 9 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    Any disease resistant tree that grows fast will get way taller then 29 feet...trees usually grow at a similar rate until they die, and are as likely to speed up there growth rate as they're as they are to slow down. Short trees are usually either short lived trees or slow growing trees. Fast growing or under 30 feet...you have to pick one.

    Why are you getting rid of the maple? Knowing what is wrong with it might guide us in making suggestions.

    Cherry tend to be fussy and prone to disease around here. Most of the fancy redbud cultivars are unreliable in Zone 5 because they are vulnerable to ice storms, though a wild form a local seed source might work. Crabapple work well and there are a million varieties. I also know a lady in metro west who is giving away surplus yellowood.

  • 9 years ago

    How about Heptacodium miconioides, AKA Seven-Son Flower? I have no experience with it personally, but it's supposed to be fast-growing up to 30 feet and trouble free.

  • 9 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    While upward oriented, producing comparatively few and thick main stems that one is still essentially shrubby in character. With it thought being likely to be related to Abelia. And it also being suggested as a substitute for panicle hydrangea. However its flower clusters are not nearly as visually impressive as those of the hydrangea.

  • 9 years ago

    Cercis Canadensis 'Floating Clouds'

    Cornus Kousa

    Cornus Kousa 'Satomi'

    Prunus Subhirtella (a seedling would be best, because they will gain a large height)

    Acer Platanoides 'Royal Red'

  • 9 years ago


    Ok so I'm getting rid of the maple because for one, I hate where they planted it..it's deep into the corner which I hate. And also it offers no esthetic value to me at all...I feel also it is hurting a lot of my shrubs I try to plant because the only plants/shrubs that seem to struggle or die are one that are close to this tree? I had someone tell me that this type of tree will send out roots to steal water and nutrients from nearby plantings...I only knew this because I had asked a couple years ago why it seemed all my plantings from around that site seemed to never thrive, and that's when they informed me it was likely the tree. SOOOO lol the tree is going. I went to a local nursery and saw a bunch of trees but really fell in love with this Japanese crabapple tree..idk why it just kept catching my eye...along with a redbud tree they have..I will post the pics here...also let me give a shot of the area from inside my house looking out, keep in mind I have tri colored beech trees outside of the fence right in front of the blue house. Also a service berry tree right in front here

    this is the crab apple I saw at nursery today and fell in love with..it's a Japanese floribundas crab, I like the look of the darker bark with the contrasting leaves and flower buds..I also like the way it branches out.

    Now this is the redbud tree they had I think it was 'Royal Pansy' or something like that? I'm hoping it doesn't mean royal PIA! Lol but I liked the form of it..it had no leaves or flowers to speak of so hard to tell what it looks like out of dormancy
    Then I saw a weeping cherry that was a double bloom variety that seemed nice as well
    and then this crab which was call royal raindrops

  • 9 years ago

    Actually scratch that, the redbud was called 'Forest Pansy'

  • 9 years ago

    The weeping cherry was called 'weeping extraordinaire weeping cherry'

  • 9 years ago

    "Forest Pansy is a gorgeous purple-leafed variety, but somewhat risky, as edlincoln noted. Another option you might consider is the Hot Wings tatarian maple. It's a very tough little tree with bright red seed samaras and great fall color."

    Yes, if you must choose from those trees, choose the redbud.

  • 9 years ago

    Okay I was shooting for the redbud..but DH says he like the Floribunda Crab better :/ but I will say he agreed if we put the crab in that spot, that I could buy the 'Lavender Twist' redbud to put in place of a ninebark shrub I am relocating...the Twist will be right out and a bit to the left when looking out of my picture window where as the crab will be a bit more centered in the window...so I figured hey I'm not complaining it's a win win..I get not only one beautiful tree..I get 2 hahaha..thank you all for you suggestions!

  • 9 years ago

    Forest Pansy isn't reliable in Zone 5. They list redbud as Zone 5 because the wild ones grow as far North as Zone 5, but various of the fancy cultivars (such as Forest Pansy) are vulnerable to winter storms in Zone 5 New England. Logan comes from way South of you. Japanese Cherries also tend to be prone to disease. In this climate Japanese floribundas crab is likely to be the longest lived of the options you are considering.

  • 9 years ago

    The Twist variety is a 'dwarf' redbud topping out around 8' or so, so it's not a big one

  • 9 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    Yeah edlincoln, we are going with the floribunda crab...I love that tree...the whole time I was walking through the nursery, it kept catching my eye...the dark bark with the green leaves and pink and white buds..beautiful