Here are some more pictures of my plants....

Wow!! Beauties, all! Since you invited questions, I have a few I would be very pleased for you to name :)

1st picture:The 2 big Echeverias in the front.

5th picture: purple tipped Echeveria? on the right

8th picture: Sempervivums? growing in a ring on the left

9th picture: grayish plant in the middle that looks felted and the Sempervivum on the right that is very light green with all the little chicks.

10th picture: large Echeveria in the middle

13th picture: Is that a Peperomia on the left?

17th picture: The clump of 4 Echeverias on the left?

Yes, wow, lovely collection! Like Odyssey I too spotted photo #5 and wondered about the plant on the right? Looks like echeveria, do you know the name? Then I wondered if it is a sempervivum, can't quite Make out the texture and color from the photo, but the form is so graceful and love the subtle-ish white line it is edged in.

And the "9th picture: grayish plant in the middle that looks felted and the
Sempervivum on the right that is very light green with all the little
chicks." Is that a Crassula Mesembryanthemoides ? I don;t think those are really chicks, that's just it's form, how it spreads...but like chicks you can just make cuttings from them.

Where are you or what zone? Are you growing inside under light or looks like mostly outside? or both? Thanks for the photos:-)

I spy a Spiral Aloe:).

Great minds and all Lisa! :)

I think I was not very clear about the 9th picture. I was asking for the IDs on 2 separate plants. So the felted grayish one may be a Crassula as you said. But the 2nd plant I am asking about is I believe some type of Sempervivum. It is very light green, on the bottom right and has what I thought were chicks growing around it on one side.

odyssey

Is this plant you are asking about?:

I would agree that plant is Sempervivum - could it be S. fimbriatum or Jovibarba hirta (rollers)? - hopefully Ryan will post proper ID.

Thanks for taking the time to check out my plants and comment... I grow them outside in Sacramento California. (Well it's actually a small town right outside Sacramento heading toward the foothills, but the climate is the same as Sacramento) I'm in zone 9b. We do get 100 degree days, so the shade is important. I lost a few plants and a couple plants were damaged in a heat wave we had last week where temps reached as high as 110 degrees F. They were in to much sun (mostly afternoon) so I pulled the burned survivors and am nursing them back to health. They all get 2-3 hours of direct sun early in the morning and filtered bright light the rest of the day. With the exception of the lithops and the cuttings in the tray. I keep them lower on display shelfs which allows for less light. Depending on their location on my patio a few plants get dabbled shade late in the day, but only very little. Ive got a retractable awning so in the fall/winter I can adjust it for more light but right now it's out to the max. I've created a bunch of little microclimates, and I put each plant in specific spots depending on their needs. I planted all my mixed pots myself.

Now I will ID the ones currently requested...

in the first picture those two big Echeverias are Echeveria Imbricata and Echeveria 'big blue curls'. In the 5th picture what you thought was an echeveria is actually a Jovibarba Huffelii purple haze, and if you like that one I have another Jovibarba Huffelii that is also very beautiful which I didn't post. I will post it with its name when the sun comes out here. The 8th picture is a sempervivum 'raspberry delight' it has a fuzzy leaf and gets a purple margin when it's cool out. In the 9th picture that fuzzy one is a Crassula mesembryanthemoides like mentioned, and that sempervivum with all the babies isn't a roller ( although I do have some rollers in that pot with all the mixed sempervivum, hueffeliis, and rollers) it is a sempervivum 'spring beauty' which is the same plant that is in picture 8 in the strawberry pot. the giant echeveria in 10 is also an echeveria imbricata, although it is in a pot and not the ground. Picture 13 is not an pepperomia it is a senecio jacobsenii aka trailing jade.

Unforunately he echeveria in 17 you ask about I can't locate the tag. I know it has "blue" in the name somewhere, but I will have to look through some tags to find it. I have the tags for most of the others in that pot though. I have one that is a little bigger, but only has a main rosette and two babies, it is planted in the ground. I'll take a picture of that one to show you too. Sorry about that!

Kara, I'm not exactly sure if that is. Spiral aloe. I have the parent plant at my work and will take a picture maybe you can help clarify that for me.

Nice Lophophora! I was very tempted to buy seeds from Mesa Garden when I last ordered, but I barely restrained myself...

Ryan

Thank you for the names...

Just a tip here: when posting so many photos (which is great!), why don't you number them...easier to look up different plants as you ID them than always trying to count pics :)

You won't be able to edit original post (that could be done only for a short while after posting), but you could still edit and number photos in subsequesnt posts. And while you said what your general location & zone are - pls. add them to your name as others do. Not easy to remember everybody's info! - and as you keep posting - most would have to ask again...thank you.

Ryan, you probably don't have a Spiral Aloe if this a pup. They don't really offset. I thought it was, but I would still love to see the mother plant. I'm curious what Aloe it is. Do you live by Grass Valley? I use to have family that lived out there:).

Kara yes I live between grass valley and Sacramento in a very small down called PENRYN between loomis and Newcastle.

Rina I log in with my FB account. Is there a way to edit my name that way? I'm in zone 9b PENRYN, ca, but so everyone can be somewhat familiar with where I live I just say Sacramento. I will number my pics in the future thanks.

Kara I got pictures of the mother plant while I was at work today. We got about 100 babies off of the mother and this is what's left.

Pic 1:

Pic 2:

I looked up the ID once but can't remember what it is since the pups are still in propagation I have some time before they go out for sale. We have over 100 species/ varieties of plants, about 20 of those are succulents. If they are new and haven't been ID and labeled it can be hard to remember what's what sometimes.

Mesemb, thanks! It's a lophophora williamsii! I was devastated when my first one rotted. I had no expirence with lophophora's and had it for a little over a year. I kept it in very, very little light over the winter with no water so their was lots of shriveling. I started watering it sparingly to try and get it to plump up again, but it ended up rotting. I've done lots more research since that happened and I ended up getting this new little guy from a great vendor in Thailand. I ordered another one but it was confiscated my customs :( the vendor sent a replacement but that was confiscated too. I told the vendor not to worry about sending another one but he insisted on giving it another try at no cost, which is very nice of him! I'm currently waiting for that one! Fingers crossed it makes it through customs. I also ordered a bunch of seeds from a great seed vendor in Germany. I have bad luck germinating cacti seeds but have about 8 seedlings I'm trying to keep alive out of the seeds I showed. They are under artificial light, but I have no control of their temps and with the heat rolling in where I am I won't be devastated if they don't make it. Even if I get 1 out of the seedlings though I'll be happy. They are only a few weeks old right now so they are super small!

The seed vendor has so many seeds from LOPHOPHORA locations you can buy them in 10s, 100s, 1,000s I'll have to look the site up and post it for you. I highly recommend this place for seeds. I'm in the US and they were willing to ship to me and I had no problem getting them.

Mesemb,

here you go the BEST lophophora seed site... Warning: once you see what they have you may not be able to resist this time!

http://www.koehres-kaktus.de/shop/

Ryan

I do not know what you can or can't do if you log on thru fb - I only know you can edit your personal info on here...

Wow, thanks!

To add your zone, click on 'Your Houzz', then click 'Edit Profile'. On the left should be a short list under 'Account', and you will want to hit 'Advanced Settings'. Near the bottom of that page, there will be a field under 'Climate Zone for Garden Forums', and you can put any info you want there.

EDIT: Woops, see Rina's post above. Not sure what you can and can't do when logging in through FB.

Rough day at work, so it was lovely to see these IDs tonight. Thank you Ryan. Yes, Rina you had the sempervivum correct that I asked about. Spring Beauty--I will have to look for that one. I just love bright yellowy greens.

I don't know much about Jovibarbas. I'm going to have to learn more about them.

Thanks again for sharing Ryan, the pictures and the IDs.

Oh my, Ryan. You have a LOT of plants. They are all amazing. Seeing all of that in person must be quite a sight. In picture #3, what is the plant in the round terra cotta pot, please?

Thanks, Tyler

Tyler, that is a lophophora williamsii... It's my precious! They are very hard to come by here in the US. It is from Mexico/south Texas it is also know by the common name peyote button. They are very slow growing. That is about a 3-4 year old plant it is about the size of a quarter.

kara, that plant you thought may be a spiral aloe at first is I believe is crocodile aloe. Or Aloe brevifolia.

Isn't Lophophora williamsii illegal in USA? Or has the law changed? Just wondering - remember reading somewhere about that...wouldn't that make ppl to want them even more? :)

I believe it is only illegal to use it to produce drugs. I would be a shame if it were illegal to collect!

Rona, mesemb,

it is only legal to own it in 5 states if you have the proper permits, which you can only get if you are part of the Native American Church or church of peyote in Arizona. It's even illegal to possess the seeds of this plant. Some laws are just really hard to take seriously being a collector and having no interest in using it for mescaline production purposes. It takes a long time to get it to the proper harvest size. People in the church of peyote have a greenhouse in Arizona where they have seedlings that have been started for the next generation. Its been over harvested and is considered endangered in its natural habitat. It's hard to find people that will try to send seeds and plants into the country because you can't get proper quarantine paperwork for the plant. Like I mentioned before I've had two confiscated by customs. Customs has no clue what type of plant it is though. "unknown plant" is specified on the paperwork customs has sent me. It just gets confiscated because it doesn't meet proper agricultural requirements for entering the country. The seeds are much easier to get into the country if you can find someone willing to send them (the link I left will send them, and the people are very nice) they are hard to start though, and for beginners starting these seeds it's not uncommon for only about 10 percent to germinate/ make it to maturity. I admit I like the fact that it is so hard to obtain and very few people in the US have them. They are more common in Canada, Europe, and Asia.

Today I took better pics of a haworthia I have and an Aloe maybe someone could help me to ID? I also reported my split rock.

Above is a haworthia Koelmaniorum.The leaves have a beautiful transparent glow in the light which is hard to capture on camera.

^The Aloe I need help Iding was bought as a NOID and is in the plastic 2" square pot in the middle... Should I post a better pic? This is another haworthia it's much more common than the other. I got the succulent pot at the Hearst castle gift shop in San Simeon, Ca. It has a drainage hole and everything in it. A totally legit little pot! AND I got it on SALE!

This is what is found since I asked:

Peyote (lophophora williamsii) is Schedule I in the United States. This means it is illegal to manufacture, buy, possess, or distribute (sell, trade or give) without a DEA license.

Regardless, nice looking plant...and I didn't mean to start anything. And read much more about it.

The non-spiral aloe looks like x Noblis. Sacramento area has a really good C&S club.

Thanks hoovb. I won't know for sure until I see the flower. I did see a large brevifolia at a nursery today that looked just like the mother plant, but I still always have a hard time telling nobilis and brevifolia apart. Time will tell. I'll probably push one at my work to try and flower by fall to see what the flower looks like. Yes I love the C&S club sale they have every spring. That is where I got my haworthia koelmaniorum. Do you happen to know what type of aloe I have in the last set of photos Ive posted? I got that at the Sacramento C&S club sale this year too. Unfortunately it had no name on it.

Rina, yes federal law is really strict about it. Once it moves into some of the state laws they get a little more relaxed, like in states such as California, Arizona, New Mexico, and Nevada (I think Nevada) but only for native Americans in the church or people who are in Arizona part of the church of peyote. Originally a friend of mine gave me 1 of 4 that he got in SF South Bay Area at a nursery called Flora grub. Someone had given he owner a flat of ones they had grown by seed and my friend was lucky enough to get access to them. I traded him a dorstenia and an Adenium Arabicum plant for it along with 20 seeds of adenium Thai socotranum 'golden bell.' I was afraid the outside would kill it last winter so I kept it inside in very low light where it had shriveled up a lot. I brought it outside in early spring and started watering again which was probably too soon. I was scared of loosing it and searched for 2-3 weeks looking for a way to obtain another one without having to drive to Canada. I finally was given a great tip on how to obtain one and it took several weeks for me to get the parcel from Thailand. The day I got my new one was the day I noticed my old one started rotting beyond repair. My new one will stay outside for good now. It is in a mix of Pumice and horticulture charcoal and I treat it like my lithops, with the acception of more water in the summer. Just the plant mix and the lighting is treated like my lithops really. I liked the one I got from Thailand so much I bought another which was confiscated, 3 days after I got the confiscated parcel another box from the same vendor came in with another confiscation note. Apparently he had sent me two this time. When he found out it was confiscated he is in the process of preping another one for transport. Fingers crossed I get it this time.

I just checked out the site from the link Ryan provided. LOTS of Lophophora williamsii variety there. Any ideas of which is what? If I were to obtain any seeds I'm thinking just the basic may have a greeter chance of germination over a hybrid?

http://www.koehres-kaktus.de/shop/Cactus-seeds/Lophophora---1_364-2.html

Thoughts?

Thanks, Tyler

http://www.magicactus.com/growers_notes.html

This will have all the info you want on many of he lophophora seeds they are selling on the other site I linked you to. If you look on the green side menu bar it has the names of the variety. Most of them are williamsii and then the other name they have ids where they grow naturally.

Ive personally had the best luck with Lophophora williamsii grandiflora and williamsii Nuevo yucatan. Caespitosa is suppose to be a harder one to germinate. I've had no luck with germinating that one personally. I don't have the best set up though.

Odyssey I went back to the nursery I got the plant from that you asked about in the 17th picture. The clumping echeveria is a echeveria minima. I also have a picture of a Jovibarba hueffelii jacupica I mentioned in another post it has the most beautiful color when it gets cold out (the picture was taken in warm temps) I also has a beautiful form.

Hi i just wanted to ask if you have any problems with stones covering the top of soil! Are they good for plants? Or it doesn't bother plants but pleases eyes?

By the way! I love your plants!!!

Desen it serves two purposes, it allows for a layer between the soil and the leaves so the leaves don't have to sit atop of wet soil after watering which could cause rot and it also looks good. You can get a big bag of granite gravel or pea gravel at Home Depot and top dress all your plants!

Thanks Ryan! Wow, I love the form of your Jovibarba hueffelii jacupica! It is like an Etch-A-Sketch drawing. You have such a great variety of plants!

Odyssey, thanks for the compliments. I love Jovibarbas and sempervivums. They are alpine plants so they can tolerate down to usda zone 3-4, cold hardy! Can handle freeze and snow cover! the best place to shop for Jovibarbas and sempervivums is http://mountaincrestgardens.com/hardy-succulents/ 

their plants always come in Great shape, filling their pots. I love buying plants from them.

I am in the DC area, so that is great to know that the Jovibarbas are hardy. I have to try some. I have a few sempervivums that are always outdoors. Thanks for the vendor recommendations.

So nice to see succulents from the foothills. I myself am from Auburn, though now I live in Nevada. My family tells me I have too many succulents, I might just have to tell them someone from our home area has way more than me.

Hey Kennie, I'm about an exit away from Auburn on I-80. Haha it's a succulent addiction! I've got lots more too! Heh

Thanks Ryan!

Kennie

So is 7a your previous or present zone?