I don't grow echies so won't advise on its care, but can say I think it would do better in a different pot. Has this one got at least one drainage hole? That fact is a must for any plant esecially a cacti or succulent. C/s don't 'usually' have extensive roots, they will be better in a shallower pot with about an inch or so of room around their width. What mix is it in please? Can't see from the pic. How often is it watered? Need a few more clues first :-)

Gill

It's stretching. It needs more and stronger light.

Looks water-starved to me.

I don't think they need 'constant 75*F temps. Most succulents will grow well in lower temps, and even appreciate difference between nighttime and daytime temps. It is safe to put them out when temps stay constantly around 50*F during nighttime.

First of all allow me to say Thank you to everyone and your insight. For more information I have provided a picture below to the oven size of my current pots. They are ceramic pots with single hole drainage.

I think the mix I'm using may be too drying. In the bottom layer of my pots I have a small handful of top dressing rocks, then a half and half mixture of succulent and cacti soil. - attached image for reference- and also hoffman cacti and succulent soil ( which in my opinion is much more moisture retentive )
I have been watering this particular plant once every three or so days and each time the soil is dry. I fully water it near the roots until the water is running out of the bottom of the pot.

As far as light have a T5 6500k light over them. I can bring it lower and I have thought of buying a second one as this one doesn't quite flood the whole shelf.

ignore oven size? lol autocorrect.overall sizes of my pots **

?? am I missing something here??.......

Gill

Hi Gill. I posted more information & images pertaining to my succulent. Is the post not showing?

I feel like my previous post didn't go through. repost?

First of all allow me to say Thank you to everyone and your insight. For more information I have provided a picture below to the oven size of my current pots. They are ceramic pots with single hole drainage.

I think the mix I'm using may be too drying. In the bottom layer of my pots I have a small handful of top dressing rocks, then a half and half mixture of succulent and cacti soil. - attached image for reference- and also hoffman cacti and succulent soil ( which in my opinion is much more moisture retentive )
I have been watering this particular plant once every three or so days and each time the soil is dry. I fully water it near the roots until the water is running out of the bottom of the pot.

As far as light have a T5 6500k light over them. I can bring it lower and I have thought of buying a second one as this one doesn't quite flood the whole shelf.

I'm not seeing your post Maryea, just the one where you mention autocorrect.

No, still nothing yet! Thought I'd lost the plot for a moment, phew, lol.

Gill

First of all allow me to say Thank you to everyone and your insight. For more information I have provided a picture below to the overall size of my current pots. They are ceramic pots with single hole drainage.

I think the mix I'm using may be too drying. In the bottom layer of my pots I have a small handful of top dressing rocks, then a half and half mixture of succulent and cacti soil. - attached image for reference- and also hoffman cacti and succulent soil ( which in my opinion is much more moisture retentive )
I have been watering this particular plant once every three or so days and each time the soil is dry. I fully water it near the roots until the water is running out of the bottom of the pot.

As far as light have a T5 6500k light over them. I can bring it lower and I have thought of buying a second one as this one doesn't quite flood the whole shelf.

This is quiet discouraging. I hope my posts begin to go through :(

Well now Houzz has posted everything so there's three of what you were trying to say. Never mind.

My 2c worth is that doing it by the book can be very drying, especially in a pot that small and under lights. I'm a heretic that mainly grows in good old soil although for me there's the home advantage of soil that is similar geologically to what these plants like. I would skip pebbles and gravel and just grow in the succulent soil and water as needed visually. When they start wrinkling as yours has, I water quite a bit until I see the leaves filling out then I stop and water on a leaner schedule.

I love your pots :)

I've had to experiment with somewhat more water-retainIng mix/soil overall, personally, as I live in a pretty dry climate and I'm a lazy waterer.

I water my echies very thoroughly, less frequently. I soak them in a container, filled up to the rim of the pots. They soak 10+ minutes (sometimes I go do chores and they get a much longer bath hehe). I'll then set them on a draining rack over the sink. Any plants that are still dripping or moist on the bottom after that are placed on towels to soak off excess before being put back on their sills.

Some plants in odd-shaped or glazed pots (without feet and holes I've drilled myself) get the "paper towel treatment" after draining; where I fold one up into a square, then screw up a little twist in the center and shove that into the drain hole. This wicks the excess off inside so they don't have a puddle of perched water at the bottom.

I aim for watering once a week, but it's usually two ... and many plants, especially echies, are visibly thirsty like yours above by the time I water. I'd give that one a really good soak so it plumps back up. :)

kd

Thanks everyone. I'm going to change my soil over as has been suggested and try this soaking method out. :) I'll update everyone with the results / progress in a day or two hopefully.

Thank you bunkfree! They are super cute but as people have mentioned they are small. I'm looking into Terra-Cotta pots since those seem to be a plant favorite. :) I'll just use these pots for my smaller succulents.

I myself had issues with over drying soil where I'm at. I don't use any rocks at the bottom, just a straight cactus mix. After some debate, it was established that I'd just have to water more often that most. Someone suggested to me then to get a moisture meter so I'd really know when they need to be watered, but in all honestly I haven't done that. I water mine until water shows in the saucers and then let them sit a few minutes in that before I drain the excess water out. I've found that some of them the water runs right through, and then in the extra time it gets soaked back up.

I'm glad you're looking into repotting, but I do want to say I really like the looks of ones you have now. I struggle a lot with wanting cute pots, but in the end I never seem to find any that are the right size and/or have drainage holes, so terracotta it is for me.

Well for those who are interested I got them on Amazon and they have different varieties. The one I snagged was the " T4U" Spring Serial Collection -
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B06X3WZNN2/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_JvSwzbYS68DD5

but they have a lot of larger pot options as well as different colors shapes and sizes..

Kennie your succulents are beautiful!! I think I actually have the same purpleish pink one you have, yours looks much much happier than mine

Hey Maryea, just a random thought...you may have soil that doesn't "re-wet" easily. I agree the pot is pretty small, but I get away with really small pots on my echies..anyway, some soil, esp. if it has peat, is really hard to re-wet once it gets over dry, so each time you water it just runs off, like it's waterproof. Not that this is your issues, but your plant does look thirsty, yet you seem to water plenty....so maybe. You can use a wetting agent, or some organic, gentle/simple dish soap, just a tiny bit on your water, it will break the surface tension and help your soil become re-wettable again.

I also have this cutie but I'm now thinking she needs more light since she's kind of stretchy. Not nearly as compact as all these other eche's I'm seeing.

On the good side I do have an adorable sprout popping in. :)

I agree about peat and soil that doesn't rewet causing problems. I also grow echeveria very happily in little glazed pots but I use a fine soil that retains more water and I don't let it get completely dry or water just runs down the side of the soil and straight out of the drain holes.

I like your pots, they are very cute and will probably be ok with a change of soil. I like growing echeveria in old ceramic teapots or even sugar bowls that I buy from thrift shops, especially the ones with missing lids, which sell for next to nothing and you don't want the lids anyway. I drill a single hole in them. You don't need a diamond drill, an ordinary masonry drill bit will do the job.

Oooh, I'd have to third the peat thing. I bought a Kiwi aeonium from a grocery store nearby and didn't have a chance to repot it for a few weeks. I had such a hard time getting the soil it was in to hold any water at all that I've almost lost the plant entirely. She's now in a better soil and is rehabilitating, but it was touch and go for a little while. Also thank you Maryea, I'm still new to succulents as well but I'm learning as I go. I spend a lot of time just reading through posts and learning new things, as well as using the ID threads to find the names of succulents I want to keep and eye out for. :)

I tried the soaking technique yesterday / along with changing out the soil. I think it looks better already even with all the manhandling.

the totally wrong picture showed up..

Peat is an abomination as far as I am concerned. Succulents in peat are doomed

Just asking the experts on here who grow many more types of c/s than myself....is it necessary for the growers plants to be under a grow light permanently in NY? My own outdoor temps here in the UK can go from the current 30c to below freezing, none of my plants go under lights or get extra heat at any time. Light levels vary enormously through the the year. I appreciate I don't grow these types, but I'm wondering if this is what we call 'overkill', i.e. not really necessary for their good growth? Apologies if this has been addresssed elsewhere within this post...hadn't time to read it all.

Gill

Hi Gill. They're not always inside just when the temp gets a little chilly for my liking or it's raining / too windy. I'd keep them moreso in a window sill but my Mother In Law doesn't really like plants or animals. :| and our sub apartment studio only has two windows both are basement window types.

Anyways, I do try to put them outside when possible under the picnic tent we have in our yard just so they get the afternoon and morning sun.

Hi Maryea, ok, that makes more sense to me now. Thanks for your explanation/reply:-)

Gill