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living with dead trees

9 years ago

It's interesting the natural reaction people have to seeing a dead tree in their yard; cut it down and cart it out. And I do the same thing when the tree is on my property. My land though is adjacent to public lands where there are large, old, healthy trees, sick trees and some long since dead but still standing trees. But it's interesting to learn how many birds and other animals use these dead trees for shelter, nesting, or otherwise hanging out.

This afternoon, I was watching a large raptor of some kind gliding on the thermals on a hot, summer afternoon. This bird was massive and majestic and must have had a wing span of at least 4 feet. It was circling the area around my house, and at one point was gliding rather low to the ground, as I was sitting on the back deck at the time, it was actually almost frightening. I think it might have been a hawk (as it had a screeching sound that sounded like the ones I heard by doing some research on the Net). Then, I saw it perched in one of the tall, dead trees in the back and just sit and watch (dead trees offer a rather clear view of the world below).

A few years ago there were some hurricane damaged trees and I ended up with a lot of cut wood, branches, trunk sections, etc... Rather than just let it lie on the ground, I used them to border my planting beds. I love the natural look and am sure a lot of critters are using the decaying wood to their advantage as well.

Then again, two different neighbors next to me have dead trees in their yard. It would drive me crazy waking up to that every morning. Not even massive ones so I can't figure out why they leave them.

No questions here, just a few observations.


Comments (17)

  • 9 years ago

    Sounds like Red-tailed Hawk.

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    That's exactly what I thought Embothrium. How did you guess that based on my meager description?! Do other hawks have different cries?? I was listening to their cries on YouTube, but am not a birder of any kind (just a bird lover). What is absolutely amazing is how raptors are really make a big time comeback in the suburbs around NYC..., there are even expanding colonies of Red Tails on MANHATTAN (experts are not sure why; but gotta be a very positive environmental message!). Last year, I had flocks/gangs of Wild Turkeys in my yard (with attitude) no less. And though I have not seen them YET, a friend of mine told me of her awe in sighting bald eagles recently. Some good news for a change. Peace out.

    BTW, do you know if Red Tails migrate or are permanent residents? (This is in Zone 7/NYC/NJ Metro Area.)

  • 9 years ago

    Dead trees are important to a lot of nesting birds (and insects of course too), maybe even bats. I had a dead river birch along my pond, and yellow tailed woodpeckers nested there for two years.


  • 9 years ago

    Well, the "untended" areas would be helpful for the beetle larvae. They like that kind of environment. What humans tend to think of as chaos :)

  • 9 years ago

    "Well, the "untended" areas would be helpful for the beetle larvae."

    That's interesting. Maybe that was the factor and not the overabundance of cut lumber (maybe both?), because with the downed vegetation, I could not mow, weed, or even walk out back. It was a tangled mess of fallen branches, vines, giant "weeds", etc. (looked like a plane had crashed in the jungle!)

  • 9 years ago

    Red tailed hawks don't seem to migrate. A good place to see them in
    winter is along the Thruway in Greene Co. They sit on dead trees,
    waiting for the cars to do their hunting for them..We used to
    have a lot of dead trees in the swamp. My guess was that they sprouted
    during a severe drought in the 1960's, grew for about 10 years, then
    were killed when the water table went back to normal. Most of them have
    fallen over in the last ten years. The last one I heard, but it took me a
    day or two to figure out which one was missing. Needless to say, there
    aren't any buildings near this. The most important things in the line of
    fire are a yellow buckeye and a Little Girl magnolia.

  • 9 years ago

    On falling over!

    Yes, that is one thing that you DO have to worry about with sick, dying or dead trees..., at least with the BIG ONES! That's why you don't hesitate about removing the ones anywhere near the fall zone!

  • 9 years ago

    The Pileated woodpecker is one good reason to leave some dead wood and trees around your lot. The first one I ever saw was one pecking on the standpipe on the roof of my house. He made a terrific noise.

    Since then I have seen them when we lived in Indiana and now in North Carolina. Once you see this crow sized woodpecker on a tree in your yard, you will never forget it.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pileated_woodpecker

    When you see him because of his head he is a quite primitive looking bird./

    He is worth putting up with the ugliness of the dead tree.

  • 9 years ago

    Dead trees can be kinda neat in their own way. In most sanitoriums, err, subdivisions ppl manicure their grass like they should tend to their children. Guess it doesn't talk back lol.

    In a natural place or tree line where it won't fall on my car or house, leave it

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    A dead standing tree is often referred to as a snag. At any given time, about 10 percent of the forest is dead trees (mostly already on the ground, but a few standing) and they are essential to the forest. Some plants like lady slippers seems to have a relationship with the fungus that grows off a rotting pine tree log.

    In my backyard, I have removed one dead pine (too close to house) and let two other dead pines come crashing down (they were leaning away from house.) Each was about 8 to 10 inches in diameter. Also, I have several dead sweet gum saplings. Two are standing and one I pushed over last summer.

    Of the two pines that have crashed, one I have let be in the yard, but I did cut one up until my chainsaw broke.

    Before the trees fell, birds has hollowed nesting spots in them.

    The sweet gum that I pushed over has some pretty cool mushrooms growing on it this summer. I think I will let it be.

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    Krnuttle we have one of those giant woodpeckers on our wooded cul de sac! They are quite awesome and they swoop and fly so quickly too.

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    Small (hairy and downy) woodpeckers were foraging on the snag that my neighbor in the back had until earlier this year. They could move up and down the snag as fast as the fastest squirrel, but unlike squirrels that move head down on 4 legs, woodpeckers move down with their heads up on their 2 legs and strong tails, it amused me every time I saw it :-)

  • 9 years ago

    I have learned that the cost of taking down dead trees is often far higher than the cost of repairing the damage of letting it fall, even on my house! If the wood isn't good for burning in my fireplace, I don't stack the logs but spread them around on the ground and plant ferns amongst them, line paths, make steps, fill hugelkultur beds.. Learned that a dead tree supports more life than a live one, which is a comforting thought in contemplating my own mortality.

  • 9 years ago

    Yeah, cemeteries have the best trees, even cemeteries of non-gardeners 8^/

  • 9 years ago

    Greenlawn Cemetery in Columbus is famous for its trees. It's also a great place for birding.

  • 9 years ago

    While they were doing other tree work I had the guys cut back the limbs of the the big dead ash but not to the trunk. I had started training a climbing hydrangea up it years before and damned if I was going to give it up just because its tree died. The climbing hydrangea loves it and covers the trunk and branches completely. It is not close to the house and if it falls it won't take out the house or us.

    OTOH there's a 6 ft Satomi Dogwood right smack in middle of the front yard. It didn't make it through the winter. I was hoping it would green up, but it is dead. And Depressing. It has to go.