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Ceiling fans on a balcony porch

8 years ago

We're remodeling an 1870 home in a small central PA town, and just got zoning permission (technically it's a historic district, but they're happy if the house just looks better) to re-do the wraparound balcony/porch in maintenance-free materials (Trex or something similar). Which is good, because while the wood isn't rotting, it's not well-designed and we're looking to completely rebuild in a stronger design. Right now, we don't feel safe with more than six people on the porch.


Anyway...we are limited to the original size of the porch, and it's quite narrow. Across the front, the width is 50", and on the side, it's 62". It's enough room for chairs and small tables, though, which is all we want. The question is, given the narrowness, the 8 foot overhead, and the openness of the porch...are ceiling fans reasonable? There are nights when it's a bit close, and a fan would certainly help. But do we have enough room? Where would you suggest we put them?


The front of the house faces almost exactly due south, and the main street is fairly busy most of the day. The view is great, though, and we spend a lot of time out there already. We'd like to make it as comfortable as possible to share with our guests. We're thinking about rope lights along the back or front of the ceiling for evening lighting.


We also got permission to restore the windows in the first floor (there were originally three windows across the wall in the first picture; the one has already been put in), and put on siding. Very excited to finally get moving on really transforming this house!




Comments (20)

  • 8 years ago

    Thanks! Since you mentioned it, what's the difference between "damp" and "wet" rated? Is there a difference? Should we get the wet, in under that roof?

  • 8 years ago

    how about a stand fan that you can place as needed?

  • 8 years ago

    ninigret -- Yeah, this was my solution...I'm told ceiling fans are more elegant, and that we'd hate to put them in later. I mean, THAT part's true enough; better to put them in now, during construction. But...we can get three good stand fans for the price of one good ceiling fan installed, and they can be used elsewhere. Sigh.

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    8 years ago

    I think adding ceiling fans would look great! I'd also maybe think about adding a porch swing. To me, porch swings and wrap around porches go together like peanut butter and jelly :)

  • 8 years ago
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    I was going to suggest smaller outdoor rated fans. I wasn't aware there was a damp and a wet rating. But for sure don't use an indoor as the elements will damage the motor. I think stand fans may look junkie not to mention the hassle of moving around.

  • 8 years ago

    Do you get strong winds where you live? We had a beautiful fan on a 3 season, screened in porch. Twice in 7 years we had fan blades break off during wind storms. We finally had to take all the blades off every fall, and put them back up after the spring storms. They looked a bit odd the rest of the time :)

  • 8 years ago

    Verona, there WAS a porch swing when we bought the house, but they took it with them. Hooks are still there, and I think we'll go with that approach; put the hooks in now, make the decision to use them at leisure. Gotta have some windchimes too; all part of my analog weather reporting system!


  • 8 years ago

    chocolatesnap, strong winds in the area are always a possibility, but the front porch is very well shielded from anything but an east wind, which is pretty rare.

  • 8 years ago

    I have an exterior rated fan 42" under the patio cover at our current house. It is exposed to wind on the east, south, and north. We get a lot of north/south wind, sometimes including driven rain/snow. In the two years it has been installed, I have seen wind drive the blades many times, with no damage(so far).

    Our patio is 24 feet long and 14 feet wide. I mounted the fan in the center of that space. I am considering moving it and installing a second fan so the fans are located 1/3 of the distance from each end(and 1/3 apart). That will allow the fans to cover the entire patio.

    On your porch, smaller diameter fans placed so each fan's coverage over laps, would need maybe 3 fans(on the side) and two on the front for complete coverage, IMHO.

    That's a lot of fans, but it is for convenience.

  • 8 years ago

    I'm from western PA. We had a covered porch on our last house. We just had a normal indoor ceiling fan on the porch. The porch was larger than yours though. The ceiling fan never got rain or snow on it. All we would do was take down the blades off the fan and store them inside for the winter.

  • 8 years ago

    No rope lighting! In addition to ceiling fans (YES!), recessed can lights on a dimmer switch. And no light attachment on ceiling fan. This is the time to put some $$$ into your outside room.

  • 8 years ago

    Why no rope lighting, typeandrun? I don't really like can lights much, and I don't think we're going to need a lot of light out there. But yeah, no lights on the fans.

  • 8 years ago
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    IMO, rope lighting is trendy and not permanent. Recessed lighting is so unobtrusive, and using a dimmer switch really adds ambience. Can't wait to see your finished photos. Love your little gem

  • 8 years ago

    I hear you. I'm not thinking about the the plastic ropes with inset lights, though. We're going for an era, 20s-30s, and I'm looking at something like this. The recessed lights just don't fit in that. This may not either, but I'm still not sure. I mean, ideally, oil lanterns, but that ain't happening!

  • 8 years ago

    Those rope lights make it look like a bar. :(. Nothing period about that. Can lights aren't period, but they don't call attention. Use period porch lights otherwise.

  • 8 years ago
    Awesome, that's exactly the look we're going for. Thanks!
  • 8 years ago

    So, an update: we decided to skip the ceiling fans after all. The only ones we liked were about $450 a piece, plus installation, and we'd need at least three. And we'd probably only use them about 15 days a year in this climate. So we're going to get a couple of nice stand fans instead.
    OTOH...we did wind up with can lights on a dimmer switch. Sigh.

  • 8 years ago

    If you're still in the construction phase, I'd at least install the boxes for the ceiling fans in case you change your mind in the future. It shouldn't be that expensive to do it now as opposed to later.

  • 8 years ago

    No, thought about that too, discussed it, and there were just too many compromises. We won't be revisiting this one.