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Anyone have experiance with "Dee-Lish"?

7 years ago

I try to pick roses that are healthy, hardy and fragrant, so I have been studying the roses that make the ADR list. Hybrid teas rarely do, so I was excited to see the hybrid tea Dee-Lish has won the ADR, and I noticed that this year "Dee-Lish (Meilland) won the Cornelia Vanderbilt Cecil Award for Most Fragrant" at the Biltmore trials. However, I rarely see any mention of this rose on the forum.

Has anyone any experience with this rose? I noticed that Edmund's carried it last year; I think I saw it on Roses Unlimited's list too.

Thanks, Sunny

Comments (31)

  • 7 years ago

    Sunny I love my Dee-lish! It's hardy here, seems like it always has blooms, and is healthy. The scent is awesome, I bought this at the nursery mostly because of fragrance, but the flowers are gorgeous too. They last as cut flowers as well. This rose and Mother of Pearl have done so well here that I'm going to scope out other Meilland roses.

    rosesmi5a thanked Dingo2001 - Z5 Chicagoland
  • 7 years ago
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    In my garden my first year Dee-lish (Line Renaud) does have a nice citrusy fragrance in the morning, but no stronger than most of my roses. It is not as strong as Munstead Wood, Princess Charlene de Monaco, Alnwick Castle, Abraham Darby. It has no fragrance in the afternoon but this is same with almost all of my roses (except Alnwick Castle). It has typical HT growth habit. Color is dark coral. Flower form is nothing special and flowers in clusters, more a grandiflora than a HT. I'm not terribly excited about this rose, but not anything really wrong with it either.

    rosesmi5a thanked noseometer...(7A, SZ10, Albuquerque)
  • 7 years ago

    strawchicago grows this rose no-spray and has many nice comments about it over on the Organic Rose forum. She says it is VERY fragrant for her and her pics are beautiful. She also gardens in Chicago, so perhaps this rose does better in a colder, more humid clime.

    rosesmi5a thanked Vaporvac Z6-OhioRiverValley
  • 7 years ago

    My Dee-Lish is root hardy, though not cane hardy, and I think it's three years old on its own roots. It does fine as a plant though it's small and not well bushed out. I get a couple of blooms a year but not as much as Dingo and Strawchicago talk about for their plant. I suspect it's a rose that prefers to be grafted, if that's the case for the other zone 5 folks that were more enthusiastic.

    Cynthia

    rosesmi5a thanked nippstress - zone 5 Nebraska
  • 7 years ago

    Got mine from Unlimited last spring. It's healthy, beautiful, very good rebloom and wonderful fragrant. Love it.

    rosesmi5a thanked Jennifer (7b)
  • 7 years ago
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    I dug up my Dee-Lish and put it in a pot this year, since it wasn't working for me color and form-wise in my garden. I have to say, that it is looking mighty good this year. First flowers just opening.

    Not a lot of fragrance yet, but last year in the ground it did. Flowers look a lot like an English rose, but the plant form is much more HT.

    It's looking so good I may have to put it back into the ground in the main garden and overlook the dumb name.

  • 7 years ago

    I got one new this year because of the report of good health. The fragrance is intoxicating, although so far the flower form has not impressed me. However, if its healthy and fragrant, its a keeper for me. I do like the color too.

  • 7 years ago

    I just planted this too, in spite of the name (hahaha noseometer)

  • 7 years ago

    Over 90 degrees here today and 7% humidity, but this is what it looks like this afternoon. Lusciously fragrant.

  • 7 years ago

    Great to see DL blooms again, noseometer! This one was a big surprise last year. It was so heathy and the fragrance was incredible. Mine is still recovering from the long winter but is growing well.

  • 7 years ago
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    Roses,

    My baby Dee-Lish was planted about 3 weeks ago, a gallon from RU, gotten in the middle of winter, and kept in my fruit cellar in total darkness at about 38°F.

    It didn't drop a leaf. When put in the ground it already had some nice growth that it came with, but no flower buds to be seen. Right now it has two pea sized buds developing along. I remain greatly encouraged about Dee-Lish, going by the critiques of Dingo and Farmer Duck, describing its attributes in an earlier post of mine enquiring on its height.

    I have the highest hopes for D-L, and will keep you posted on its progress.

    Moses

  • 7 years ago

    noseometer, you said something about overlooking Dee-lish's dumb name. It has many other names if you would prefer choosing one of those:

    Alive
    • Elbflorenz
    Forget-Me-Not
    Inclus
    Line Renaud ®
    MEIclusif
    Sweet Parfum de Provence
    Tchekhov®
    The Anniversary Rose


  • 7 years ago

    Really, someone names a rose "Alive"?? Being in zone 5, I'd love to rename all my HTs "Alive" if they'd just live up to that name after the winter. With my luck though, it would jinx them all and the entire bed would die in sympathy.

    I'm resigned to the Dee-Lish because a) Forget me not would make me wish it were blue, b) Sweet Parfum de Provence is too long (but the best of the names), c) Tchekhov would get mixed up in my head with Tchaikovski and The Anniversary Rose with Our Anniversary, d) Elbflorenz sounds like it should be "Geld" or yellow, and the rest don't mean anything meaningful to me.

    Of course the real reason is I already wrote the rose tag and I'm too lazy and cheap to change it. Can't be worse than Golden Showers or funnier than Happy Butt.

    Cynthia

  • 7 years ago

    I like Line Renaud (the French actress), and I like Tchekhov. But it is most commonly called Dee-lish here, and that's what people know, so I think I'm stuck.

  • 7 years ago
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    RosesMI,

    My Dee-Lish is in full bloom now, wow! 5 buds, three fully open, and what a beauty.

    The bloom color of mine at this time is a deep, dark coral, like Fragrant Cloud, but darker, and very bright. I would call its color rich madder, more red than pink.

    It's at the back of my rose bed and only 16" tall, so to smell it I have to cut a bloom...which I cannot bring myself to do just yet, it being so young.

    I think I hit a bullseye with getting Dee-Lish!

    Moses

  • 7 years ago
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    It smells very berry-like, almost an edible smell, which is unusual for a rose.

  • 7 years ago

    I was just admiring my Dee-lish this morning in the vase. The first few blooms it gave were rather boring, low in petal count and somewhat ugly. However in its second flush the blooms have been much better. The color is very unusual, almost like a deep dusty rose, or deep coral, but cooler, its somewhat hard to describe. Today the ones I had in the vase opened all the way and showed off some very pretty stamens. I hope its as disease resistant as everyone says because she's really starting to grow on me.

  • 7 years ago

    I'd love to get this rose for next year!! :)

    Carol

  • 7 years ago
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    Carol,

    I don't think you could go wrong with Dee-Lish. Its ADR designation should make it an unlikely black spotter. It's too soon to report on BS on my Dee-Lish, and I do spray, but I plan to test DL and pass over it when spraying its neighbors to see what happens.

    It could be quite winter hardy, obviously irrelevant for you since you container grow your roses, but for me it's critical.

    You know, I am finding ADR roses for the most part are about as BS proof as the Knock Outs, but winter hardiness is very variable from variety to variety. I believe the test gardens in Germany on average range between zone 6 and 7, and the roses tested, again I only suspect this, could be grafted, so winter hardiness could be partially attributable to being grafted also, not just based upon on the scion's winter hardy attributes. Grown own root, the ADR winners could be less winter hardy. This point, I need to further investigate.

    My Earth Angel is a wonder: no blackspot, no winter kill without any protection, great flowers and scent.

    My Pink Enchantment, black spot free, dies to the ground WITH winter protection. Could it not die back over winter in Germany's warmer zone test gardens, but dies back big time in my colder zone garden?

    Both Earth Angel and Pink Enchantment are ADR winners.

    Questions, question....that's part of the challenge and draw of growing roses.

    Moses

  • 7 years ago

    Nice, noseometer!

    I was able to cut my first Dee-Lish bloom of the season this week and was reminded how much I love the scent! I think you would love it, Carol.

  • 7 years ago

    Moses - it's nice to experiment. I've written down in a book which roses I've potted in my new "soil." Then I'll compare, etc. I've also written down from where I've gotten the roses to see if that makes a difference. I'm expecting that Palantine roses will do the best. I really hope Palantine carries Dee-Lish this fall! I really want it now!! :)

    Noseometer - the 2nd picture ISN'T a full flush?? Wow! Here that's a full flush!! Gorgeous!

    Dave - Oh man...I've got to find this rose next spring!! :)

    Carol


  • 7 years ago

    I agree with Carol, Noseometer - that would be a cause for celebration in these parts. Great pictures of this rose!

    FWIW, I've found in zone 5 that Dee-Lish seems to be root hardy but hasn't been cane hardy in the past few winters. It regrows OK from the roots but doesn't like it overwhelmingly, and is a short bloomer on a few canes like Dick Clark. Nice blooms, but not a lot of them. We'll see if it improves with age, but it's probably going to be one of my "accent" roses with a few blooms now and then rather than the flush Noseometer showed.

    Cytnahi

  • 7 years ago
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    Thanks guys! The first flush had a few more flowers which were larger. It looks like it's going to take a break after this is done. It is a pretty rose, but you have to like that deep coral color and I'm not sure how it will fit in my garden yet. For some reason it reminds me a bit of Tropicana, but not as orange. It does have a beautiful fragrance. I'd rank it below Abraham Darby, Jude the Obscure, and at about the same par as Firefighter, and in that same genre of fragrances with fruit and lightness, and so not really comparable to, say Mister Lincoln (rich dark damask), Marie Pavie (musk), or Iceberg (honey).

  • 7 years ago

    noseometer - I love your descriptions about fragrance!! You really know your fragrances!! :)

    Carol

  • 7 years ago

    I seldom buy roses on impulse....I would much rather enjoy sitting in front of the computer researching the forums or other sources before buying.....but Dee-lish was an impulse buy last summer.....I sniffed as I passed the bloom, and kept on coming back to sniff again....to me, it smelled like grapefruit! It was such a strong, sweet fragrance that it eventually found its way home with me despite my head battling with my heart. Over the winter, it died down almost to the ground in my zone 5 but is growing new shoots so we will see. Wonderful fragrance!


  • 2 months ago

    I live in zone 6 and purchased Dee-Lish from a very a tell renowned retailer of roses. I honestly don’t recall if this is its second year in the ground or third. I purchased it bare-root late in the season for bare-root roses. I planted it as soon as I could, and it struggled. Which I thought was understandable due to the extremely hot summer weather had last year and the year before we had a very rainy summer, too much where root rot was becoming an issue to worry about happening. Luckily the last two winters were above average in temperature and only a couple of days where I would be worried due to wind and temperature. Due to the rose growing so little that by summer’s end it was way undersize and never managed to bloom or even bud.. I had this same issue with several roses last summer. All barely grew and didn’t flower as it should (they didn’t flower at all, except my favorite work horse Savanna which is a hybrid tea that I have become to love due to getting so many huge light pink blooms with little work and Pope John Paul II which I replaced 2-3 years ago due to loosing almost all my roses from one extremely cold and windy day that occurred when my plants were just breaking dormancy. It was a nightmare and very detrimental to roses, especially grafted. Own root roses have the ability to grow a new shoot. Once your grafted part is dead, it’s a loss.
    I tried propagating grafted roses and found they are difficult to root and keep alive.
    Anyways, I lost one side of Dee-Lish but one thick stem made it and it’s growing the best o have seen since purchasing. I received the rose bigger, better, and healthier and it just got smaller, struggled to survive and to my shock it made a warm Boston winter but I purchased those pop-up tents on Amazon and I couldn’t be more impressed with the results. When I checked them in early spring, I saw all living roses with green stems. I couldn’t believe that Dee-Lish, Elizabeth, and one Pope John Paul II made it. They were very small and fragile but alive so I had a chance of nursing them back to a robust healthy rose. The weather was good for growing and they have all grown almost as big as when I received them. The only roses that I continually have a difficult time getting to take/off and keeping alive is Elganza, hybrid tea rises which are supposed to be a good disease resistant cold hardy rose. All I get is little growth, very few blooms and very low growth. I have tried Elizabeth and Wedding Bells which is beautiful when it produced a total of 4 blooms over 3-4 years. I could get this rose to grow for the life of me. Tried everything. It finally died the winter that we got an early spring windy cold day.
    Anyone, have ant advice?
    I’m just a home gardener and don’t have the easiest landscape. I have a lot of rock/ledge so I had to make stone retaining walls in order to get enough depth. My soil is good in the areas I made walls but it’s sandy and dry on the Northern most side. I built a retaining wall but it gets full Sun starting very late morning until sunset.
    I don’t plant my roses in that area. It’s been a trial and error there.

    I will update Dee-Lish with pictures and maybe someone can upload their pictures so we can compare the rose and see if we are getting the same results or different.

  • 2 months ago
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    I have Dee-lish, love it and bought a second one last year. I kept it in a pot and just put it in the ground next to the first. I am not sure it is the most floriferous or quickest rebloomer, but when it does bloom, the flower is a complete swoon for me. Great fragrance too, a bit grassy, but I love it.

    It might be my second favorite after Munstead Wood, or maybe third, after Easy Does It. It is a sorbet coral color, very sophisticated to my eye, reminding me of Bourbon roses.

    It is healthy and sturdy but doesn't grow too large. I placed them next to each other to achieve more coverage.



  • 2 months ago

    I don't grow this rose, but I'd just like to thank everyone for their responses. It's so helpful hearing from a wide variety of people to get a real cross-section of experience.

  • 2 months ago

    @Michelle McFaun Since your questions are more general, you might want to post a new question so folks on the forum will see it, rather than buried at the bottom on a many years old thread about a particular rose. Just a thought :-D