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Succulent mix id

My awesome boyfriend just surprised me with a super cute little hand picked succulent mix from the local nursery. Any help with id would be appreciated since no place seems to label their succulents (what's up with that?). Any experience or special care requirements also more than welcome.

What's your protocol when you get a new plant? How long (if at all) do you quarantine for (and how far away from others qualifies as quarantine)? Any argument for or against repotting asap?

Does anything look peculiar or alarming about these guys in particular?

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  • 9 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    The bottom three are Sempervivums. Unlike most succulents these guys are cold hardy succulents and should be grown outside. They do not do well if grown inside without supplemental lighting. For me in the summer my sun is too strong for these guys even when acclimated. They just start closing up and drying out. Just don't look as pretty;). They need protection from my summer afternoon sun, but if you live more up north you should be fine:). These are monocarpic so when one of the rosettes bloom, that rosette will die, but the others will live:).

    Top left Echeveria 'Black Prince':). Needs lots of light to keep nice and compact. This guy can take as much light/sun you can throw at it;).

    Second from left from what I can see looks like Graptosedum 'Vera Higgins'. Same as Echeveria these can take and need lots of good light to grow well.

    Top middle Sedum rubrotinctum aka Jelly bean. For these I find they need a little more water than other succulents to keep all those leaves plump and hydrated. They can take less water, but don't look as nice. They will start dropping their leaves, and you will be stuck with 3 inch of bare stem and the last top inch will have leaves. Needs good amount light too:).

    One on far right I can't tell, but I'm guessing some type of Pachyveria. I really don't know, but you can treat just like an Echeveria and it should be perfectly fine:).

    Ok now all these should be in fast draining mix. The mix I gave you with the 50% perlite and 50% cheap cactus soil is good. When repotting like I said in your last post clean and inspect roots when repotting. Do not water for a week after repotting:).

    When it comes to light it's always best to slowly acclimate to light. Sometimes these guys have lived their lives in greenhouses so if you throw them outside in all day sun. You could have burned plants. So starting off with full morning sun till about noon and then the plants should be in some shade or bright filtered light.

    It would be a little easier if I knew your Hardiness Zone. It's easy to find just go to this Site:) type in your your zip code. I'm assuming you live in the US;). Let me know so I can let you know how to treat these plants in the winter. The Sempervivums are very cold hardy those are the only ones that are in your batch of plants;).

    Oh ya all your pots should gave drainage holes:).

  • 9 years ago

    OMG Kara you are my little angel right now. I was just in the middle of commenting on a post from February and I noticed you were involved in that one. You're my guru!

    Since I'm such a newbie I'm sticking to Terra Cotta and clay everything, always with drainage holes. I also have been making my own soil and I'll just have to see how that goes. There's no going back now!

    Sorry, I thought I added my zone to the profile, my bad. 6B- Central Jersey (on the PA border, not ocean side... If that matters)

    Thank you thank you thank you for the IDs! Especially the pachyveria. I was not even close to figuring that one out.

    So the jelly beaner... They lose their leaves often and it's supposed to do that? Just leave them all in there and that's that? I figured it was just from the car ride and such. Very cool.

    Ok here is my current dilemma and the reason I was commenting on that Feb post. That nightmare soil. Rinsing roots like hair, that's a new experience! 2 down, one to go. And the last one is the jelly beaner. Im terrified!

  • 9 years ago

    The weather is so wacky these days. Today was around 80 and sunny. Idk when it's going to get cold and idk how cold it is going to get this year. Maybe we will have snow, maybe there will only be one snow all winter. It seems like fall and spring are no more. It's summer, it rains for a week, it's winter. Poof that fast! So just to clarify, the sempervivum is cool outside as long as it stays dry, right? I have these new guys outside separated from the rest of the plants still. Any of them very sensitive to the cold that I should be on top of?

  • 9 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    Chrissy

    Pls. make sure you add the zone/location to your profile - it is probably impossible to remember everyone's zone and asking every time is no fun :)

    Sempervivums are very hardy - to z4 and many even lower. Any succulents should be potted in fast draining mix, and do same for semps. You don't have to worry about them getting rained or snowed on.

    Terracotta pots are for sure nicer looking and good - but there is nothing wrong with using plastic. Most important is good drainage, and that goes for terracotta/clay pots, or any other materials. Drainage holes + fast draining mix...Btw, if you keep semps in containers, terracotta may crack in winter. It may not happen immediately, but most do. Unless containers are freeze-proof. I keep many semps in plastic tubs, wooden boxes (all with drainage holes) and in ground.

  • 9 years ago

    Those are very very cute. You have yourself a very thoughtful person in your life. Suck it up and enjoy...Very nice

  • 9 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    That's sweet of you to say Chrissyd:). If you do have to get rid of old soil by using water. Let the roots dry for a day. Just to be safe:). With things that are small and delicate like a Lithop I usually will not use water. Sometimes you can just use your fingers to remove all the soil, but sometimes the peaty soil gets so rock hard you would do more harm by not using water. Just so you know the reason why most bagged cactus mixes you will find at places like Home Depot are not the greatest for succulents is because if the ingredient, peat. Peat will hold onto moisture if receiving water on the norm. On the other side if left to dry out, which most succulents need, will become hard as a rock and won't absorb water. It repels water. So neither is good for succulents. That's why perlite along with other things helps add aeration and drainage. There are other things you can use. You could also do pure grit mixes which lots of people use. My mix has pumice, perlite, and cactus mix. Look up something called Al's gritty mix. Perlite and cactus mix will be fine for now, but if you find yourself getting more and more succulents you may want to switch to a grittier mix. When people are first starting out I don't want to overwhelm them by telling them to get a bunch of ingredients. Especially if they have two plants. I know perlite and cactus mix is readily available, and works. The only big negative I find with perlite is that it's super light. So it floats to the top.

    The Semps can spend their time outside during the winter. If you can maybe think about putting them in ground eventually:).

    The others you will have to bring inside once it starts getting cold. I would say when the nights hit the low 40's bring them in. That's about the time when I start to cover my plants. All my plants are outside. There are a handful that I will overwinter inside:). Put all the plants in your sunniest window. Unfortunately you may get etiolation, but it's something that just happens if not using a grow light, but it's ok when spring comes around you can behead and restart the plant. Once they become etiolated the older growth will not revert back to its compact state. So you behead the plant. Once the plant gets more light the new growth will be compact. Here's a good Post about that kinda stuff, but don't worry about that now. I'm trying to prepare you. In the winter definitely water less so you can slow down growth. That should help:).

    When watering always make sure the mix is thoroughly dry. You can use a wooden skewer and dip it all the way down till you hit the bottom. If it comes damp anywhere, wait to water.

    Last three things:). I don't have to deal with snow, but I have read that succulents have rotted because they were to close to the window on snowy nights.

    When getting a new plant it's always best to do a little research on that plant. So you get the feel of where that plant originates from and their environment. Paints a picture:). This is the best thing I've learned on this forum. For example let's say you get a Epihyllum which is a lovely rainforest cactus. Then you get a Golden barrel cactus, which is a cactus from an arid environment. If you treat them the same one will suffer.

    Lastly, there's this misconception that all succulents/cactus love lots and lots of sun. Just not true. I mean don't get me wrong most do need lots of sun, but there are some like Haworthias that would not thrive in all day summer sun. This goes back to what I said doing a little research on the plants:).

    That's it for now. You've kinda got the crash course on succulents. It's all trial and error. Will you kill pants? Most definitely, but you will also have successes. Which makes it all worth it:). Goodluck:).

  • 9 years ago

    Thanks for the advice everyone. The two I washed are drying now. I figure I'll pot em up tonight. The jelly beaner is still in that dry solid soil but it's a pot full of separate plants, right? And it seems like they drop leaves easily and often... Idk if I should attempt.

    So unfortunately my house is dark. It's like a cave. There are 2 windows that face south and one is over the kitchen sink. My bf brings home everything he can get his hands on (plants included) and he just found a grow light on the side of the road. It works, idk the specifics on the light in there. Can I supplement with that during darker winter days?

    I am definitely prone to overwater so the terracotta pots seemed to be a good fit for me, for now at least. Also, we had a ton of them! I never thought about them cracking in the cold though, good call. And if I'm leaving them outside for the winter, should I have them in a bigger pot for more soil for insulation or am I over thinking this?

    Do Holiday Cactus count as succulents? My bf brought home 4 that we're gonna get thrown in a dumpster and I need some advice on them before they get worse. Otherwise I'm just gonna try to repot them bc I think it's better than leaving them as is. I don't care about a nice bloom this year I just want them to live!

  • 9 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    If the light was discarded, either may not be working (could be, possibly, fixed) or it may be old workshop light that uses pretty inefficient old fluoro tubes. But, maybe it is a good one! - ppl sometimes discard perfectly good things. Best fluoro tubes to use would be T5HO, or LED (I do not use those & don't know much about them).

    If that fails, you could use very inexpensive CFL lightbulbs, or LED lightbulbs. Make sure they are minimum 23W and 6500k - you could go bit lower on k but I would recommend the highest.

    Overpotting succulents (using big pot) is not very good idea unless mix is really well draining. Too much of slow draining mix (that big pot will hold) takes much longer to drain, and could cause problem. That is much worse than little soil/mix...I am assuming you are thinking of semps. I would definitely leave them outside, maintaining them over winter indoors is not best (unless they can be kept pretty cool). They are Alpine plants, and appreciate some winter :) I have them trailing over rocks with miniscule amount of soil, and also in a concrete container (and others as I mentioned). Your terracotta pots could last - depends what quality they are, but will likely crack sooner or later.

    Holiday cacti are succulents (all cacti are succulents, but not all succulents are cacti :). They do not need strongest sunlight, usually can take bit more watering and most ppl keep them in barky mix.

    Any plant may suffer if touching cold windowpane on cold winter days. But unless the window is very drafty, there should be np. I have kept succulents in 45-48*F room and didn't loose any - and am sure temps could have been even lower. They should be kept almost dry in cold temps but still should have good light.

  • 9 years ago

    Rina- Very cool, thanks for the input. I feel like a new mom over here! I just want to make sure I don't make any really stupid mistakes and kill my new babies.

    Any other cold hardy succulents like the semps that I could mix with them out there? Or is that a bad idea?

    Yeah where I live people put perfectly good things out on the curb all the time. I know bc my boyfriend brings all of it home! This light looks like it might be good score though. It works, who knows for how long but I guess we will find out. It's a little worn but I think it's a T5 High Output. Once it gets cold and things have to come in I might try it out if I think I need to. I guess it's all trial and error from here!

    Do you line the wood boxes with plastic? I love that idea but I never use them bc im too lazy to figure out how to line them and I don't wanna rot everything out

  • 9 years ago

    There are many hardy succulents, either find them in nursery-GH-garden center-any store that sells plants, or order on line. Best ones are free - cuttings or transplants from friends, neighbours...There are ground cover types, and tall types (Hylotelephium for example, that is quite common and many ppl grow them - you will probably recognize some if you google photos) and many in-between. I grow quite a few different ones outdoors.

    That bulb looks OK, was it just a bulb?

    I don't line boxes with anything - eventually, they may rot but it will take few years. Some are made from cedar boards, others from thick pine, and so on.

  • 9 years ago

    Sorry, close to running out of data, have to try to conserve! Only one bulb but this whole set up....

    i just turned it on and put a couple things under so you had a relative idea of size

    Henry the guinea pig photobombed me haha

  • 9 years ago

    Question about the rubrotinctum (I guess it could go for any succulent though)...

    It's been about a week since I started repotting these and so now I'm thinking about watering.

    Leave the fallen leaves in the pot so they can sprout new there? If I water the plant the leaves will not rot? Or remove fallen leaves?

  • 9 years ago

    If you want to propagate the leaves, it is better to remove them and let them root in another pot/tray.

  • 9 years ago

    I would normally take fallen leaves out but for some reason I thought I was supposed to leave them in the pot with that particular plant so they can grow and cover stems. But couldn't watering on the leaves cause rot probs?

  • 9 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    I leave most leaves of few succulents where they fall. That would be S. rubrotinctum, S. morganianum, xSedeveria 'Harry Butterfield'...they will almost all root and very easily - I actually throw some away, since there is just too many new plants.