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'Gloire de Ducher' / 'Julia Child'... today

8 years ago

The blooms on 'G de D' are huge, I measured one at 5 and half inches across, which I think is rather big. If I'm honest I prefer smaller bloom roses but I won't argue...





… this is not just another floribunda, but a superlative shrub rose. I know it's nothing new to many of you, but it's fairly new here and quite extraordinary. Almost too big for my border, she's like a Hollywood Starlet who has barged her way in, but is quite welcome, although I might have to prune her back... getting towards 5 foot x 5..



Houzz seems to have changed a bit, so let me see if I can post this without issue..

Comments (16)

  • 8 years ago
    last modified: 8 years ago

    What a spectacular rose Gloire de Ducher is. I wouldn't want to have too many roses with such large blooms, but surely one can't hurt.

    Julia Child is an extremely good rose which I heartlessly ripped out of my front garden because it didn't fit with my mostly white, pink and purple scheme or the wild hillsides surrounding it. Yours is perfection and I'm sure blends wonderfully into your garden surroundings.

    User thanked ingrid_vc so. CA zone 9
  • 8 years ago
    last modified: 8 years ago

    thanks titian.... I had this rose last year in a different position and it was smaller and gangly, in too much shade, so I'm delighted it has taken its move well, and is now sturdy, with strong canes, and happier in a much lighter sunnier spot. A bit more scent would be nice, I only get it on warm days...

    All my neighbours love 'JC'... although they don't know what it's called..

    oh thanks Ingrid, just saw you post... yes it must have looked out of place somewhat in your more pastel shade garden, but perhaps you might try again at some point.. maybe it would prove one of those roses that takes to your soil and climate that you are looking for...

  • 8 years ago

    Oh that smoky purple with swirls of magenta are gorgeous. Gloire de Ducher is grown to perfection in your garden Marlorena and obviously your climate and conditions are perfect for it! Thank you so much for sharing photos!

    User thanked Cori Ann - H0uzz violated my privacy
  • 8 years ago

    Marlorena, your Gloire de Ducher is the stuff of deeply satisfying romances or a big tub of dark chocolate ice cream, an antique silver spoon and a good British mystery! If I thought GdD would hold off on the blackspot in my climate, I'd track one down and carry it home. Sometimes bigger is better, like when it's a velvety, raspberry-purple rose. Carol

    User thanked portlandmysteryrose
  • 8 years ago

    Marlorena...your Gloire de Ducher is simply stunning. That's my idea of a "red" rose :)

    I have a very small one (planted as a band last summer) in the shadier of my rose beds and even though it's small, it's putting out the most gorgeous blooms of all my red roses. They seem to glow from within. I'm looking forward to having 5 inch blooms!

    Carol, I live near Seattle and my (admittedly new and small) GdD doesn't suffer from much, if any, blackspot!

    User thanked Rosylady (PNW zone 8)
  • 8 years ago

    Thank you, Roselady. That IS good news! What is the origin of your GdD? Carol

  • 8 years ago

    Cori Ann, I love your description, smoky purple with swirls of magenta, I'm sticking to that... thanks...

    Carol, you also have a way with words, you know you really need this rose, I'm sure it must do well in Portland...

    Rosylady, thank you also, and I hope yours does well for you. Mine didn't like the shade too much so I moved it last year and now it's almost like seeing a different rose take shape but I expect you get more heat than I do... thanks again everyone..

  • 8 years ago

    Carol...I'm 99% sure I got mine from RVR. It was a very small, spindly band and has been one of the slowest growers of all my new roses. There have been times over the last year where I thought I would lose it! But this spring it finally put out a nice large cane and I can see it's getting going now.

    Despite it's slow growth, it has continually had 1 or 2 beautiful blooms on it, even in the winter it was trying to bloom! I went out to take a picture to post here, but after our rain last night (did you also get rain in PDX?) it's looking a little bedraggled.

    Anyway, this is one of my most anticipated roses in my new garden. Marlorena, I bought it after seeing your beautiful pictures last year. Thank you!

    User thanked Rosylady (PNW zone 8)
  • 8 years ago

    Gads, this is a beautiful rose! Thank you, Marlorena, for bringing this rose to my attention with such telling photos. And thank you, Roselady, for the nursery info. Yep, my garden was "heavily watered" last night, too. Fortunately I clipped a number of roses, like Clotilde Soupert, and deposited them in vases beforehand. Everything is a soggy mess now! Carol

    User thanked portlandmysteryrose
  • 8 years ago

    The Gloire de Ducher is wonderful, fabulous shadings; it looks like velvet...

    It looks like one I need to add to my Wish list!

    User thanked Krista_5NY
  • 3 years ago
    last modified: 3 years ago

    @User

    Marlorena,

    I hope this message reaches you, now 5 years later? I just bought Gloire de Ducher from Rogue Valley Roses, OR. I love this rose, beautiful Fushia-wine-purple BIG BLOOMS, I hear she’s very fragrant, and vigorous growth! A friend pointed out you had GdD! I am so excited to see your photis of GdD! Huge blooms 5 1/2 diameter! Love it! Yours has exquisite colir! And i live your Julia Childs , too! I have Julua-she’s new… just 8 inches talk-but looks very healthy. My GDD is being dekivered next week-very excited!

    How is your Gloire de Ducher now? Hiw tall? What is your city/sate location? I am wondering how she does us your climate & hiw she will do in my NY climate. I am sure she will be fine. How many times does she bloom/have flushes in your growing season?

    DA photo



  • 3 years ago

    For me, Gloire de Ducher is by no means a very vigorous rose-quite the contrary. Not that I plan to give up on it-those flowers are just TOO beautiful!

  • 3 years ago
    last modified: 3 years ago

    Bart, Not too vigorous isgoid! I don’t need too tall.Love her! “Too beautiful,” is real Good! Yes!!!

  • 3 years ago

    Well, Kitty,the problem isn't it getting too tall, the problem is getting it to grow, get established, get it's feet under it-not sure how to explain. My guess is that it takes a lot of energy to produce those flowers. I'm hoping that in the end my patience will be rewarded with a strong and sturdy plant...

  • 3 years ago
    last modified: 3 years ago

    Hi, Bart,

    I read that Gloire de Ducher is supposed to be hardy, vigorous. However, I am sure she needs the right conditions. for proper growth. And first year,roses usually are small-grow littleget their roots established. Second year roses start doing better-ok growth, but 3rd year roses take off-grow vigrously. Esp. bands from RVRs are small first year-take a few years to show their real stuff!

    I purchased Cinderella as a band, who had 3 blooms first year, 1-2 ft high first year. Second year winter took its toll on her & she took all season to grow 2ft, but end of season she finally shot up 5 ft. Not much show of blooms in her second year. 3rd year, she started pruned in spring at 3ft, now 5 1/2 ft-sooooo many buds-unbelievable-can’t count-super vigorous-HUGE!!! My soil/fertilizers are organic.

    How is your soil quality & does it drain well, fertilizer, and sunshine on Gloire de Ducher?

    I use organic soils, Rose Tone, fish fertilizers & she will get full 8 hrs sun at least. What do you think?

    There are many factors that can stunt growth. A climate she diesn’t like. Cold winters can damage their growth taking a full season to recover sometimes. if you have clay… it can defintely stunt growth &/or cause fungus from poor draining. Tree roots & other olants crowd & stunt growth. Sandy soil is poor for many roses. Where is your location-city-state? & plant zone?