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Overgrown Flat Wonderful Peach- Questions

8 years ago
last modified: 8 years ago

I’ve lurked in the gardenweb forums for years, but never actually posted anything.

Over the last five years, I’ve been working on a relatively small home orchard, maybe .5 acre total space.

At my location in Nothern Virginia, I’ve had the most success with peaches and plums, and moderate success with nectarines (I just don’t care for them as much, and MAN are they a bug magnet).

Generally speaking, I prune throughout the year. I get very good growth, and really haven’t had any major issues, aside from a tree or two lost to boring insects, and at least some leaf curl pretty much every year, though I don’t feel the need to spray for it- otherwise healthy trees seem to bounce back just fine.

But, I have this flat wonderful peach on a standard root stock that has just gotten out of control. I don’t really *love* the tree to be honest. It’s not a heavy bearing variety, which has its perks, since it doesn’t require a lot of thinning, but it also doesn’t have the branch and leaf density I’m accustomed to with many of the other varieties I’ve planted.

I can’t seem to put a branch where I want it on this tree. It refused to give me anything to work with early on, and has some narrow crotch angles that are hardly a reason to cut it down, but it just wants to go straight up into the air no matter what I do.

The tree is three years old, and easily 20’ tall, and I’ve got to do something with it before it gets so unmanageable that I might as well just let it go. My plan for the summer is basically to do corrective pruning as needed, and try to direct the growth outward as much as possible, but once I harvest this summer, I’m considering drastic measures.

Prior experience tells me that taking out 50% of a peach generally isn’t a death sentence, if done right before bud break in spring, but I’m curious to hear what others might do??

This is the first peach I’ve planted that has utterly challenged me in the pruning department, and while I have learned from reading here, watching lots of videos, and the school of hard knocks (experience), I’m just looking for some additional input.

I may not love the tree, but I don’t want to kill it. It grows well here. Maybe too well. The height _must_ come down.

Thoughts?

Comments (6)

  • 8 years ago

    I had a flat wonderful and loved it. But mine decided to grow sideways and twist like a bonsai even though in ground. One thing I did was to tie small rocks to branches to make them slowly bend outward almost like espalier during the season til branches hardened into position. It helped keep an open vase shape on the tree. Perhaps if you spread beaches like that and trim central leader the tree will get the message and put out more lateral branching and fruit.

    If you do trim, I'd love a piece since I lost mine after a storm.


  • 8 years ago

    Appreciate the feedback. I agree, pruning it to grow out instead of up is definitely the logical choice.

    As for scion wood, I’m happy to share cuttings from anything I have here that isn’t still under patent protection.

    Not concerned with the poor fruit density on the flat wonderful this year, since I have other peach trees that are loaded this summer.

    That said, it would be nice to redirect it in the fall, then grow it back out into a desirable form next summer. Sort of a two year process, isn’t it?

  • 8 years ago

    The dangling rocks actually worked pretty quickly. I used between egg sized and fist sized depending on thickness of branches. Bend to desired height first then attach which ever keeps it there.

    If I did in May/June when branch growth was firm but still flexible, by end of Aug it stayed in place. I'd leave on til cooler weather to make sure it was set for winter. Next year same thing. I also noticed more fruit on horizontal branches than vertical ones.

  • 8 years ago

    In the meantime, we will enjoy some plums this year, and I’ll continue honing my pruning skills.

    This particular plum tree was completely chewed off at the trunk by a puppy within a year of planting.

    I thought it was a gonner at the time, but it now has the most desirable form of all the trees (four years later)- wide, not tall.

    And to give credence to what you said about horizontal growth, it’s also loaded with fruit.

    To be honest, I should’ve thinned it more, but I’m not concerned. Live and learn, right?

    As long as it doesn’t break branches, I’m good with it.

    Or some Hale Haven peaches, which is also a much more horizontal tree, and has lots of fruit this year. With all the heavy rain, it has dropped a lot of peaches, but there are plenty left, and it seems to have subsided.

  • 8 years ago

    They look great. What kind of plums?

    I'm sure the rocks will make your flat wonderful look more like your Hale Haven in no time. For me it was an easy fix since nature and gravity do all the work and you only have to trim the excessively tall center when dormant later on.

    The first time I wrapped rocks with twine but now I use extra organza bags I had to cover fruit (figs etc) and its so much easier to fill bags, can even use smaller rocks til level and looks much nicer almost like decorating tree with crystal sparkling pouches.

  • 8 years ago

    Supposed to be a Santa Rosa, but I wouldn’t know any better if it wasn’t. The fruit gets a deep purple and somewhat waxy appearance when ripe.

    I didn’t think I would really care for them that much, since I’m more of a peach person, but they’re sweet and juicy when ripe, and really surprised me when we got the first fruit.

    It did take longer than a peach to start producing a meaningful crop.

    There are hundreds this year. Every branch is covered like that- though it did drop about 20% of its fruit at the very end of May.

    Good thing I guess. It was way too many.