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Help With House Orientation On Lot

7 years ago
last modified: 7 years ago

I have been browsing through many current and old threads on here and have done a fair amount of the same on the old GW site, but figured its time to actually make a post and request some opinions. Since I have seen many preach about the best home designs starts with factoring in the land that house will be on lets start there.

We are in the early stages of a new home build. A year ago we bought a lot and since then have thought up some ideas however no home plans have been chosen, no serious talks with builders, designers or architects yet. We bought the lot because I wanted some additional room and enough privacy and space that we could have a lot of natural light and open views to the yard and countryside without having neighbors and people walking on the sidewalk see into house (current house is 1800sq ft ranch with basement on corner lot 0.3 ac in size). However my wife wanted to still be in town, close to schools, parks, and activities. This lot is part of 5 lots, all about 2-4ac in size that were platted 30 years ago and at that time, had nothing around them. Since then, the cities residential development has reached the property edge to the North, East, and South. The west is still wide open and currently just a cattle pasture with views into the Missouri River bottoms 2 miles away. So while it is currently zoned for Agricultural the city has a long term plan map that this will turn into low density residential similar to the developments to the North and East.

So having said that I am looking for some opinions on house plan orientation on this property. Some details on the lot below:

* 2.2ac rural residential

* septic system needed

* Consistent slope to lot (1' rise for 10' run)

* topography gives view off to the NW, W, and SW

* Currently has some mature cedar trees around the North and East property lines, I have also planted 100+ smaller trees in the past year to help in providing some visual screening, wind screening, and snow drift control.

* While the topography does give some views and great sunsets over the river valley we will likely try to create more interest and scenery with whatever landscaping we do. Given the slope of the lot some boulder or rock walls will likely be added and maybe a manmade creek/waterfall feature down the road.

* This area can see high winds… its North Dakota prairie….

* Given our climate and frost depth, basements are pretty standard and with the slop of the lot we had envisioned a walkout to provide more light and open feel to the basement.

So in an effort to keep this shorter and more on point, I’ll stop there. I am looking to see opinions on how you would orient a house. If the view was to the East or SE I think it would be a no brainer, however since it’s not, it seems like some compromises will have to be made.

Keep in mind this is North Dakota and there is the benefit of the sun melting the snow and ice on driveways and front entries that face south and southwest. The winters are also cold enough that the use of the back deck/patio will be very minimal in the winter months. Let me know if any other information would be of help. I included some images of the lot parcels with elevation lines. As well as some Google Earth views with slightly exaggerated elevation magnitudes to better visualize the topography.








Comments (11)

  • 7 years ago

    Google's Sketchup will allow you to import images of your surroundings. Then you can "see" out the windows of your Sketchup 3-d house. You can also read the classic book "A Pattern Language" which has some good info about comfort, much as Virgil Carter above. It may be in your local library, or https://www.amazon.com/Pattern-Language-Buildings-Construction-Environmental/dp/0195019199

  • 7 years ago

    You appear to have a nice E-SE option for the rear of the house. You probably wouldn't want private rooms facing the street. Think about the kind of light you want in various rooms in the morning, evening, etc. I'd put the garage N or NW, where it can block the cold and wind.

    Everyone coming into my MIL's apartment commented on her lovely view, but she said she'd stopped noticing it. She reminded people that she lived *inside*, and she didn't like her tiny kitchen.



  • PRO
    7 years ago

    Aaah, North Dakota. Is the telephone pole still the State Tree?

    (I use to go to family reunions there as a child; Bismarck & Garrison Dam area)

  • 7 years ago

    Thanks for the responses. It is 2.2 ac. so we have options, but whatever it will be, will end up a compromise of something. The seasonal extremes we see make things interesting that's for sure.

    Our current home has a backyard facing NW, so we are aware of what comes with that, but even our side yard that faces directly south is very unpleasant in the summer

    Mark - Lucky you, those are two of the best areas in the state!

  • 7 years ago

    We're on a farm in Alberta with a similar climate and winds. We oriented our new house so that the front of the house faces north and the kitchen, dining room, and living room face south. About 15 years ago we planted several rows of shelterbelt trees, evergreen and deciduous, around the field in which we built the house, so we have some shade from the trees this summer and when the leaves drop in the fall we'll get more sun and (relative lol) warmth.

    Even though Alberta is sunnier than a lot of places in Canada in the winter, we can't rely much on the sun to melt snow and ice in front of the house, so that wasn't at all a consideration.

  • 7 years ago

    As well as orientation, also consider the cost of a driveway and bringing services (water, electricity, etc.) to your home. Setting your home well back can quickly add surprising amounts to these necessities. Do your homework on these as well and don't forget to factor in their cost to your overall building budget.

  • 7 years ago
    last modified: 7 years ago

    I agree completely with the recomendation for a south orientation. I grew up in a house where the largest windows face south, including a very big picture window in the living room. My parents still live there. It's in the Niagara area.

    In the winter, the sun penetrates deep into the house, providing heat and welcome light during the short days. In the summer, the sun is high and doesn't heat up the house since there are no east or west windows. It's wonderful, and I envy them since my own home has an east-west orientation. We've planted trees to mitigate the west sun, but it's not the same. In the winter, we barely see the sun in my house.

  • 7 years ago

    OP: I had/have the same question regarding my lot and got some responses that might be helpful to you as well:


    https://www.houzz.com/discussions/orientation-of-house-on-lot-dsvw-vd~5320758


  • PRO
    7 years ago
    last modified: 7 years ago

    Take a very good architect, A North Dakota architect...........to the SITE. You will shorten the pondering by months. Wind, hot/cold extremes, flooding. and what not. North Dakota comes with bonuses. You need a plan. You won't get it here : )

  • 7 years ago

    Jan is right. Let me fix her wording. "You need a plan. You won't get it here from me." She's right about that. But she's also correct about bringing a world renowned architect and possibly an award winning landscape architect to the site will likely get you a very good plan. Worldwide competition with a big prize could help you identify those worthies. Or you could submit the info to a ND University Architectural School class as an exercise for some forward looking plans. Maybe wind power and lithium batteries.. Many more options. Maybe a Kickstarter or Facebook fund raising site idea.

    The more on site info you can supply the better the responses you'll get from people on this forum. So keep moving ahead step by step. Orienting to the south with driveway and garage to the north is a beginning. You drive by the house to enter the drive. The walkout being on the west which is the same side as the road is the challenge. That suggests no traditional front elevation. That opens the design potential.