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Fill gap between window and frame

8 years ago

Need advice on what to do about the weatherstripping that falls out of these Lincoln wood windows. Location: DFW metroplex, TX (hot climate) The wood windows are fixed, i.e., they do not open or shut. Due to high heat, humidity, etc the wood around these windows seems to have alot of movement. I have had to re-caulk joints between wood windows and stone masonry every few years. Every year a few windows have this weatherstripping piece just fall out as is shown in photo. Originally I just was replacing that piece that fell out with flexible westherstripping, but that does not seem to last but a few years also. Now I am wondering if I should just fill the gap between wood window frame and wood window with an expandable foam and then caulk over to seal, then apply new paint all.

The windows are not designed to open. The gap created when the weatherstripping piece falls out is usually +- 5/16" wide, too wide for just caulk. Advice please on best exterior caulk for this type application. Many thanks.

Comments (10)

  • PRO
    8 years ago

    Don't use expandable foam. You could use back rod and caulking of a color match if you like.

    penn6th thanked Windows on Washington Ltd
  • 8 years ago

    Thank u Windows on Washington Ltd. Any particular reason for not using expandable foam? I was wondering if the expandable foam would help with sealing air gaps/ cracks around windows. Additional thoughts?

  • 8 years ago

    I agree 100% with WOW. Backer rod and caulking compound is the way to go.

    Actually, I've filled gaps that wide with nothing but silicone caulking.

    I predict that you'll be sorry if you use expanding foam. It sticks to everything -- especially to you -- looks awful, and weathers poorly.

    penn6th thanked DavidR
  • 8 years ago

    Your windows should have some kind of warranty coverage against defects. I would call the manufacturer and see if they can help you. If you attempt a DIY fix and it fails, you have voided any warranty that might be in place.

  • 8 years ago

    I tried to investigate the warranty option, but we did not build this house (we r 2nd owner) and Lincoln windows says they cannot find any record of windows sold to prior homeowner (probably because the window sale was likely to home builder who went out of business) so Lincoln won't help me out. Windows are double pane but 10 years old. The real problem is the bad decision someone made to install wood windows in Texas where it is just too hot and humid for wood windows to stand up to the climatic conditions. So I am stuck with trying to keep them in as good of condition as possible. It is just way too expensive for us to replace all the wood windows, esp since we dont plan to bein this house after we retire in a few years.

  • 8 years ago

    Then I would still not do a DIY, but call a reliable window installer and have them fix it. Then, their workmanship should be covered (at the very least for a limited warranty period).

  • 8 years ago

    I did not know about backer rod and cut a white foam pool noodle to fill a large crack then used silicone caulk over it. Everyone laughed, but it worked beautifully. I later learned about backer rod. It come in different sizes and would have made my job easier.

    penn6th thanked buzyjo
  • 8 years ago

    "Then I would still not do a DIY, but call a reliable window installer and have them fix it. Then, their workmanship should be covered (at the very least for a limited warranty period)."


    No one is going to warrant a cludge labor repair, period. W.o.W. first post is the best, backer rod and caulk. Part of the reason these windows are refered to as Leaky Lincolns..................

    penn6th thanked millworkman
  • 8 years ago

    Be aware that a lot of silicone caulks are not paintable. As well as being extremely difficult to tool and just generally nasty to try to work with.

    I would go with backer rod and Big Stretch caulk (Lowe's has it). Easy to tool and soap & water clean up.

    http://www.sashco.com/products/big-stretch/

    (Another great Sashco product is Lexel.)

    Buzyjo, I've done the pool noodle trick, too. You can custom size it; I've found that a lot of the time, backer rod doesn't quite work. One size is too loose and the next size up bulges out of the void I'm wanting to fill. I've also cut sheet foam insulation to friction fit for filler behind caulk.

    penn6th thanked ci_lantro