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Unknown seed identification needed.

8 years ago

My wife found this seed somewhere around the place. I have no idea what kind it is. Very hard woody seed coat. Cracked open somewhat. Too smooth to be a black walnut. I think the first picture is the top view.

Here is more of a bottom view:


Comments (21)

  • 8 years ago

    scale would sure help ... how big is it ...

    User thanked ken_adrian Adrian MI cold Z5
  • 8 years ago

    Sorry, I thought about that after I posted but thought maybe it was so obvious to someone, they would automatically know what it was. :-)

    It is almost round and 1-1/8" diameter.

    The surface is somewhat rough/wrinkly but smooth compared to a black walnut.


    Is anyone else having trouble viewing pictures that are posted?

  • 8 years ago

    If it wasn't Minnesota, I'd say it might be a dried out palm "eyeball".



    User thanked gyr_falcon
  • 8 years ago

    We were in West palm beach and then took a cruise over to Grand Bahama island, a couple of years ago. I, for the life of me, can't remember bringing anything back but I suppose it's possible.

    It looks a little dry and has a crack in it. Can it still be viable? How would I test it? Or how would I stratify it?

  • 8 years ago

    Okay, thanks! I don't think I have the means to grow one in a pot anyways and it wouldn't survive my winters outside. :-)

  • 8 years ago

    If not a black walnut, probably something in the hickory family, it has the look.

    User thanked dbarron
  • 8 years ago
    last modified: 8 years ago

    I can't rule anything out. It looks like a more wrinkled surface than what gyr_falcon posted and possibly larger in diameter. I know so little about these kinds of seeds whether it be palm or hickory, we never see either one of them up here and neither would probably grow in z3. I think it looks more nut like though. And still can't remember where it came from exactly.

  • 8 years ago
    last modified: 8 years ago

    If it hadn't come from Florida I'd suggest the fruit (not the seed) of Davidia involucrata. I'm not sure if that Species grows there. Does it sound dense or hollow when tapped on a surface? Is it heavy or light for its size? Does it rattle?

    User thanked floral_uk z.8/9 SW UK
  • 8 years ago

    Sorry floral,

    I just saw this now and it didn't show up in my notifications (nothing new with this new site).


    It is very hard and dense when tapped on my bench and feels heavy for it's size.

    The shell is very wood like and hard.


    Not sure it came from Florida, I just can't remember collecting this seed and Florida's the only place I've been with a zone higher than 5.

  • 8 years ago

    Why don't you just plant it and see what it grows into.

    User thanked Jay 6a Chicago
  • 8 years ago

    Thanks!

    But until I know what it is, how will I proceed with the correct way to stratify it?

  • 8 years ago

    Good point. It would probably have to be winter sowed or left in the fridge for three months. Strange that the tree it came from can't be located.

    User thanked Jay 6a Chicago
  • 8 years ago

    Ya, if I do anything, it will be late winter or early spring, so no hurry. :-)

  • 8 years ago
    last modified: 8 years ago

    I agree with Floral that it looks something like a fruit, a mummified fruit? The top pic shows a lighter surface with a crack as if it were attached to something, either to a stem with a crown or something like the cap on an acorn which is missing. Otherwise I have no idea what it is.

    User thanked vgkg Z-7 Va
  • 8 years ago

    If it did come from Florida it won't need cold stratification.

    User thanked floral_uk z.8/9 SW UK
  • 8 years ago
    last modified: 8 years ago

    " If it did come from Florida it won't need cold stratification "

    haha! I was just thinking about the same thing!

    In your best opinion, what would be the best way to stratify something like this? Just soak it in water a short time then keep it moist? I know it may be too old to expect anything but what's to loose?

    I would think it best to wait until March or April, so once it sprouts, it could have real sun, during the day anyways.

    Any thoughts?

  • 8 years ago

    After I posted, I amped up the lighting, to take better pictures. I was a little frustrated, because of the dark color (reddish brown almost black) made me think it was interfering with seeing the texture of the surface. These were with Mode Macro on. The 'shell' reminds me of a Brazil nut shell, very hard and seemingly thick. Top end:


    I noticed some marks that appeared to be scrapes, that looked more red. Made me think that this could be a 'coating' like a pit from fruit? That had 'jelly' dry on the surface? Bottom end:


    So I took the seed to a wire brush to see if I could lighten it up for better visibility. Thought it might make it look more familiar to someone in the know? Following are some pics after the wire brush. Bottom end:


    Top end:


    Another angle of top:

    Hope this helps find the name of this thing.

  • 8 years ago

    I know this is probably way out there but it looks like an old dried out Avocado pit/seed.

    User thanked signet_gw(6b)
  • 8 years ago

    I stumbled across this thread which may relate, looks similar anyways....

    https://www.gardenweb.com/discussions/5445057/need-help-identifying-this-fruit#n=19

    User thanked vgkg Z-7 Va
  • 8 years ago

    With at least two comments of it being old and dried out, I split it apart and it broke quite easily.

    The shell not as thick as it first appeared. The center is solid and what looks like an embryo.

    The possibility of Avocado might be valid as we do buy them every now and then.


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