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Salinity (water & soil) Question

8 years ago
last modified: 8 years ago

Hi! My area has a soil with 7.8 alkilinity and zero salinity. My garden water is @ 7.7 alk. and a TDS of 435. Very good drainage.

My question: What happens to the desolved salts when I water? I would think it would transfers it into the soil after light - moderate waterings. According to the gov. experts, the soil has none. Does the soil not retain it for some reason? I would think not and that the salts would accumulate.


Can anyone explain? Thanks for your time!

Comments (10)

  • 8 years ago
    Not really sure... I been around situations where TDS stands for total dissolved solids.
    Are you reading that as total dissolved salts?
  • 8 years ago

    TDS on a soil test is always total dissolved solids :-) And salts only build up with frequent or excessive fertilization and inadequate watering. Otherwise they are taken up by the plants or dissolved or leached into the soil.

    Salts build up is most often encountered in container gardening or in very arid climates with minimal irrigation.

  • 8 years ago

    I mean it as solids, but doesn't that include salts?

  • 8 years ago

    I think that salts are only solids when they precipitate out. When dissolved in water, they are not solid. But I beg to be corrected. I'm over my head. Chemistry was 40+ years ago.


    Pecci thanked Sara Malone Zone 9b
  • 8 years ago
    last modified: 8 years ago

    You are correct Sara.

    This all depends on what 'salinity' means in your particular test. If it means 'sodium' then you simply have no sodium hanging around which is fine. But all the other minerals - carbonate, sulfate, chloride, nitrate - all contribute to TDS too.

    The reading of 7.8 sounds more like a pH reading than alkalinity. Alkalinity is the total capacity to neutralize acid and is calculated by summing individual values for carbonate, bicarbonate, sulfate etc., giving each ion a weighting depending on whether it can combine with one hydrogen ion (bicarbonate) or two (carbonate). Most tap water is in the range of 100 mg/L (ppm) for total alkalinity. My public drinking water supply is 121 mg/L alkalinity, 29 mg/L sodium, pH 8.45 and TDS 293 mg/L.

    Alkalinity and pH are interrelated but not the same thing.

    https://ag.umass.edu/greenhouse-floriculture/fact-sheets/water-quality-ph-alkalinity

    What happens to dissolved salts? The ones not deposited in soil or taken up by plants or held in solution in the soil's water content (called the pore water or soil solution), are carried downwards into the ground. Note, any water you pull up out of a well will have minerals dissolved in it - in other words, TDS. The mix will change on the way down as the water interacts with materials it's leaching through.

    Probably more than you wanted to know...

  • 8 years ago

    Thanks, and yes, I should have said pH. I wrongly assume pH scale is representative of the amount of alkalinity.

    ... and no it isn't more than I wanted to know. It is much appreciated.

  • 8 years ago


    thx yes that was interesting.

  • 8 years ago

    Some soils retain salts better than others. A sandy soil would retain less.

    With water having TDS of 435, I suspect the "zero salinity" is either relative to some known standard and there actually are some salts in there, or "salt" is more narrowly defined as sodium, or other group I elements. (potassium, namely) I'd always assumed salt in the context of soil meant any free Group I or II ions. Which would include calcium and magnesium.

    Pecci thanked UpperBayGardener (zone 7)
  • 8 years ago

    Only the lab can tell you for sure what they meant.

    Pecci thanked toxcrusadr