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Bad cabinet alignment job...??

7 years ago
I had posted about the bad backsplash work our contractors did back in December. Thankfully they are re-doing that at no extra cost. I just came across another problem with their work. The cabinets are not aligned properly across the wall. On one side-there is about a 1 to half inch of a gap between top of cabinet and ceiling. As it moves over to the other side of the wall...the gap gets smaller. The top of the cabinets are practically touching the ceiling. (First two pictures)

**KEEP IN MIND**
The side where the cabinets are touching the ceiling, the workers actually extended that soffit. There used to be an enclosed washer and dryer in that small closet next to kitchen and we decided to knock it down. (see before pictures in comments) So if the ceiling is uneven, is that their fault? Can they even adjust that? Is it normal? Do I ignore it? Help.

My brand new kitchen is absolutely beautiful. There’s no denying that. From afar, you can’t tell. I am thankful. Just wondering what I should do. Thank you.

Job is at about 30k right now.

Comments (13)

  • 7 years ago
    Before pics.
  • 7 years ago
    last modified: 7 years ago

    We have this in our kitchen, but it is because our ceiling is uneven (old house, kitchen is three combined rooms, didn't re-do the ceiling). Our cabinetmaker hung the cabinets level and then scribed the molding to hug the ceiling. If you look at it, it's quite noticeable where the ceiling is really out of whack (+1" over a 36" run) and you would never know in most of the kitchen, where it's less than an inch. (And no one really ever looks at it unless I point it out!) As far as whether it's their fault--if they did work on the ceiling where the soffit extension is, I would expect them to have checked it. If they didn't touch the ceiling, I wouldn't consider it their fault, but they should still have lifted it up as a concern and proposed some solutions to hide it (or to let you decide whether to adjust the ceiling).

    The first thing I would check is that they hung the cabinets level in the first place, though. That should absolutely be fixed if they did not, and it might address the issue.

  • 7 years ago

    1. see if the cabinets are actually level

    2. it's not as bad as it looks because the doors haven't been adjusted yet. The boxes look pretty close. Not perfect, but closer.

    Make sure they don't leave you to adjust the doors. It's a miserable job. :P

  • 7 years ago
    You seem to have concluded that the cabinets are aligned incorrectly but that can't be determined by these photos. It is quite likely that the preexisting soffit is not level therefore the gap between level cabinets and the drywall overhead is not going to be even. There are some situations where the installer can fool the eye by matching existing elements which arent level but that just does not work for cabinets which must be level and plumb.

    My own kitchen has an uneven gap over one run of cabinets. If we had been doing a $100K + job in a million dollar property, we would have checked level on the existing studs and shimmed as needed to get the drywall as level as you would expect in a high end job. This is a moderate price house and we were refitting an older house with reclaimed cabinets. The additional work just wasnt a good use of resources. It was a judgement call and other than cussing my partner when trying to install the uppers, we haven't been bothered by the issue.

    Of course, the job could have been better but it could also have been much worse. If that $30K figure includes all work, materials and fees, it is not realistic to expect the GC to rebuild an existing soffit unless it was damaged during removal of the previous cabinets. You can certainly ask the GC if he has any thoughts to help hide the issue. Some people run a line of caulk slightly recessed from the front to help reflect light and minimize the shadows.
  • 7 years ago
    What tatts said. My husband is a carpenter, and a little OCD about plumb and level, but there is no way to have everything perfectly straight and even across the board when working with studs, as they are a natural material that will expand and contract over time, as well as not being perfectly straight to start with. As long as your foundation is level and your counters are level, the rest will almost always be slightly imperfect. The goal is to get it as close to perfect as possible and fool the eye into not being able to see it. If it bothers you too much, put up some trim.
  • PRO
    7 years ago
    last modified: 7 years ago

    All I notice is the counter edge and lack of polka dot tile meeting that edge : ) just to the right of the light switch.

  • 7 years ago

    I noticed you said they extended the soffit. If your cabinets are level, there isn't a reason they can't fill that gap and make it even. If the cabinet hangers are with the same builder, ask them to make it look right for you. I know if I can do this, a pro sure could.


    My ex-DH was a GC, and he was big on "creating the illusion" of plumb and level in old houses. In new houses he built? He was a demon about things being that, and square.

  • PRO
    7 years ago

    At this point the backsplash is installed - you really can't rehang the wall cabinets & shouldn't if they are installed level. It seems like the issue is in the soffit. If this was caught before, they may have been able to add some compound to the side with the larger space and then filed in with caulk ( you can only caulk up to a certain size of gap ).

    Unfortunately this is the problem with putting cabinets up to the ceiling or a soffit without using any sort of trim - it is sometimes not possible to completely "fix" something like this.

    I hope you find a resolution your are happy with.

    And thank you for Installing black cabinets! and a busy backsplash! Love it!!

  • 7 years ago

    This is why quarter round was invented.

  • 7 years ago

    Q..why is the kitchen in the hallway /under the stairs ?

  • 7 years ago

    My ceiling is uneven too I don't think its unusual.