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soapstone problems

7 years ago

I am new to this, so I hope I'm posting in the right section.


I recently had a table made with mirasol blackmoon honed soapstone. I did a lot of research and picked this one not only for looks, but because it's one of the hardest. Unfortunately I couldn't get a sample before buying it. I had read that soapstone doesn't stain or etch and is completely heat resistant. Unfortunately, mine is seeming pit/erode with an acid like hot sauce. The honed finish is very smooth, but if I leave hot sauce on, even for a short period, the white veins completely erode and become very gritty. It also affects the black areas, but not nearly as bad, especially if there is no white in that particular area. I also got it to stain with red frosting dye left on for a long period. I was able to get it out by leaving bleach on it for a long time, but again, it ruined the softness and became gritty (not sure if it was from the dye or just the bleach). The sample I am using to test is from the slab that my table was made from and the piece I am testing has not been treated with any oil or wax. I also see lots of brush marks on my table- looks like from when they sanded. It's the worst after just oiled, but always visible in the right light from the right angle. I just emailed the company, but was wondering anyone else has had an experience like this. This stone in on a kitchen table and the reason I picked it is because I didn't want to have to worry about my kids spilling things, painting etc. Unfortunately it looks like I will have to worry with this particular stone. My Taj Mahal quartzite counters, on the other hand, have been indestructible and it's been 1.5 years!

Comments (16)

  • 7 years ago
    Not an expert, but are you sure you got actual soapstone and not an imitation? Soapstone should not stain or be affected by acids. It can scratch, however.
    Marie R thanked Erica B
  • 7 years ago

    Erica- thanks for the response. I really don't know. The soapstone was from Mirasol (a company that imports Brazilian soapstone), which seems like an credible soapstone company, but I agree- it certainly isn't behaving like pure soapstone!

  • 7 years ago

    My soapstone counters were PA - a hard variety - and they never etched or stained. At first, I would get glass rings after I oiled, but after oiling for about six months and using my counters every day...I stopped oiling, never had any more rings, and loved loved loved my counters.

    Marie R thanked AboutToGetDusty
  • 7 years ago

    Abouttogetdusty- Thank you! is yours also Mirasol? Is yours honed? I have a message in to mirasol, so I am curious what they will say. It says right on their website that soapstone will not etch. Here's a pic of what happened with hot sauce. You can see at the end of the vein the change in color. This was an unoiled/unwaxed piece. Oiling it will probably help cover up the color change (I tried it on a different piece that wasn't so bad- lemon juice for a short period of time) but the texture is totally different. Gritty as opposed to smooth . So upsetting as I thought I had chosen a stone that didn't etch!

  • 7 years ago

    You sure it's soapstone?! Mine is from Garden State Soapstone.


    Marie R thanked AboutToGetDusty
  • 7 years ago

    It was labeled as soapstone from Mirasol- which seems like a big soapstone company, but I'm really thinking it is mislabeled!! Im still waiting to hear back, but probably nothing I can do about it even if they are mislabeling some of their stone.

  • 7 years ago

    Thanks cook's kitchen. I need to ask the fabricator, but to my knowledge he did not sand it. It came with a honed finish from the stoneyard (I picked the slab myself-it's not shiny at all, just a honed matte finish). A friend of his came to install it onto our table base because he had an appt. It took 4 of them because it was SO heavy. That fabricator washed it down with acetone, and then wanted to seal it, but I wouldn't let him- so it was just acetone. But that is with my actual table. The scrap piece I used to test probably doesn't even have acetone on it. With my quartzite counters, he sealed them after they were installed, so I don't think he uses any sealer before installing. I'll check with the stoneyard to see if they do anything to the stones, but the Mirasol website shows my black moon already honed. I'm at a loss, other than thinking it is not 100% soap stone.

  • 7 years ago

    You might try to contact karin_mt, a commenter on Houzz who is a geologist, if I recall correctly. That would be an expert opinion. As a non expert, from everything I’ve read, by definition actual soapstone should not etch or stain. And those were the reasons you as a consumer bought it. I would think that Mirasol owes you a new slab.

    Marie R thanked jad2design
  • 7 years ago

    Thank you jad2- I will give her a try!

  • 7 years ago

    I'm here anyway, lol.


    I wrote about soapstone not too long ago, and I got a box of samples so I could learn about soapstone's properties. One of the things I learned is that soapstone is a family of rocks, rather than one exact thing. Soapstone can be made out of a variety of different minerals, and in different proportions.


    Of the 12 samples I tested, one etched ever so slightly. One of the minerals in soapstone, magnesite, can have a very weak reaction with acid.


    It's also possible that your soapstone has calcite veins, which would certainly etch, but just in that spot.


    Here's the article: https://usenaturalstone.org/soft-spot-soapstone/


    I'd echo the suggestion to talk to your dealer. It's up to them to make sure you get a stone with the same qualities they promised.


    Sorry that I can't pin down your problem exactly. Keep us posted!









    Marie R thanked karin_mt
  • 7 years ago

    karin-mt - What do you know about PA? https://gardenstatesoapstone.com/soapstone-inventory/soapstone/pa-pinheiros-altos-original Is it soapstone or serpentine? I loved my PA counters in my former house. They felt so soft and lovely but held up well and were marketed as a "hard variety soapstone."

  • 7 years ago

    Thank you Karin!! I'm wondering if it is only the white in my soapstone that is etching. I'm not 100%, but I do know that the white veins react VERY poorly. However, I see that the entire stone has pinpoints of the white everywhere- if you look at a certain angle it can almost look a bit like glitter when it is not honed. (I'm seeing it on the back side of the sample that is broken and not sanded. So I'm wondering if it's just the white in it that is etching- and that there is just a lot of tiny white specks. I wonder if I can send a piece somewhere to find out what the stone exactly is? I will say that the white veins don't really stain. I did get it to stain with red frosting dye, but it did finally come out with bleach (that etched it). However wine and coffee did not stain the vein at all- the wine did etch it though.

  • 7 years ago

    Thank you Karin!! I'm wondering if it is only the white in my soapstone that is etching. I'm not 100%, but I do know that the white veins react VERY poorly. However, I see that the entire stone has pinpoints of the white everywhere- if you look at a certain angle it can almost look a bit like glitter when it is not honed. (I'm seeing it on the back side of the sample that is broken and not sanded. So I'm wondering if it's just the white in it that is etching- and that there is just a lot of tiny white specks. I wonder if I can send a piece somewhere to find out what the stone exactly is? I will say that the white veins don't really stain. I did get it to stain with red frosting dye, but it did finally come out with bleach (that etched it). However wine and coffee did not stain the vein at all- the wine did etch it though.

  • 7 years ago

    About to Get Dusty - I have not come across a soapstone that is 5 on the Mohs scale. My hunch is that it's softer than that. Sometimes 'hard soapstones' are actually serpentine, but this one looks like soapstone. I don't know anything about that one specifically, so I can't shed much light on it, sorry!

  • 7 years ago

    Marie - Most likely the white in the veins is not the same mineral as the pinpoints of white. Soapstone is a blend of different minerals, and it can really vary between different stones.


    If you want to send me a sample I can have a look, but I won't be able to pin down the exact minerals. But I can check out the hardness and see if I can tell anything about what the mineral content is.


    I'm surprised that wine etched it. That really does not sound like the way soapstone should behave. Sorry this is such an issue for you, what a pain.


    Marie R thanked karin_mt