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Help with decision process on irrigation/lawn installation pls?

I'm looking to remove existing DG and plant a small area of lawn (600sf) and install irrigation for it.



I think I can manage to decide what type of green stuff to plant. Kurapia, UC Verde Buffalo Grass, something from Steppables, lots of options.


The larger problem seems to be what type of irrigation to install to water my new green postage stamp-wedge. Subsurface drip or surface sprayers. I've read about the advantages and disadvantages of the different kinds, but I'm still stuck. Basically, it looks like all the information on the internet is written by people who sell the stuff. I don't have anybody I trust to cut through the BS, and it's a big ticket item for me, so I want to get it right the first time. How do I decide? Subsurface is a LOT more expensive (and easier to do badly), but seems to have a lot of benefits, as I read the pros debating it on the lawn forums of another site.


Also, I don't know how to find a good installer. The words Landscaper/Landscape Architect/Irrigation Installer/Irrigation Contractor etc. all sound the same to me. What words should I use to search on Angie's list or Yelp to find someone good to (a) install new irrigation and (b) help me choose what to plant and (c) supply and plant the green stuff? If referrals are allowed on this site, I'm in Westchester/LAX.


Aside from one guy who I do plan to talk to, the staffs at my local garden centers are typically pretty unhelpful. ;-)


Thanks for any help!

Comments (7)

  • 7 years ago

    For a lawn or groundcover, you want a pop-up spray system. Subsurface drip is best for plants in planting beds. And a landscape contractor should be able to do all that you want - design and install the irrigation system, select and acquire and finally plant the plants. But not all contractors are skilled in all aspects so you will need to ask, specifically about the irrigation rather than the planting aspect.

    BlueSky Susan (10b-24) thanked gardengal48 (PNW Z8/9)
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    7 years ago

    I'd stick with overhead spray. You can use sub-surface drip on a lawn but finding someone to install that will be hard and if you hire a local lawn care service they will have a harder time maintaining it.

    BlueSky Susan (10b-24) thanked Colwynn Garden Design
  • 7 years ago
    last modified: 7 years ago

    I have sub-surface drip. At six years it is prone to developing leaks and has become so brittle that it is extremely difficult to repair. I don't recommend it.

  • 7 years ago

    HI, I use sprayers on my lawn area, mostly due to cost vs. size of lawn (1000 sqft)


    Everything else is on drip which I installed myself, it's very easy in that no trenches need to be dug etc. My lowest maintenance drip lines are by Netafim - the inline drippers are self cleaning and have root inhibitors. They start out on the surface but get buried over time - first by mulch, then soil as the mulch breaks down. My first lines were put in over 10 years ago using the netafin 17mm techline pipe. More recently I have used Netafin EZ which is 12mm and does not need lots of fittings as it can bend into sharped curves without kinking. For a lawn you would use 6 or 9 inch spacing.

    I also have other lines using the 1/2" pipe and various 'flag' drippers, these are not self cleaning and can get clogged with roots if buried. They also can get brittle and break when stepped on, but they are cheap...


    to avoid a lot of digging you could also try the micro sprinklers which run off of standard drip pipes (1/2 and 1/4), but they will be more visible.

    BlueSky Susan (10b-24) thanked chadinlg Zone 9b Los Gatos CA
  • 7 years ago

    Use MP Rotators for the popups. They are low precipitation rate emitters. Subsurface drip, while fine for turf, can be a maintenance headache.

    BlueSky Susan (10b-24) thanked Nil13 usda:10a sunset:21 LA,CA (Mount Wash.)
  • 7 years ago

    Thanks all. Really good advice of all sorts. Overhead it is, and probably, one of the Marathon fescues but I have to research that more.


    I think I'll do overhead, with the MP Rotators or similar (after I research them haha). I was flirting with Kurapia but I've only seen one really good looking yard of it (fantastic in fact - done by Armstrongs), and several very borderline yards of it. Meeesssssssy looking if left to its own devices in full sun, looks like.


    I'm currently leaning toward regular grass, since gardeners understand it and there is more information out there about how to care for it. The gardeners and nurseries in my neighborhood all say Marathon is the one to get unless you're ok with a dormant period. Since I'm affirmatively paying to install this thing, I'm not ok with a dormant period. If I moved in and Buffalo or St. Augustine was already there, ok fine, I'd keep it.


    Sounds like subsurface could theoretically be great, but also lots of potential problems that have been highlighted above (and that's even after it's correctly installed).