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Celtis occidentalis seedlings turning yellow.

7 years ago

I started some from seed around the middle of March and put them into their own pots using 511 bark mix. i may have went a little heavy on the Dolomite but not that much and I noticed Fungus Gnats around my light station in the basement so put sticky traps out and caught hundreds of the little buggers.

I hardened off the trees by moving them outside when the temps were warm enough for several weeks and then moved them outside permanently over a week ago.

The trees were doing fantastic but even a few weeks ago the new growth started slowing then stopped and now the leaves are yellowing. The one lost all it's leaves in the wind yesterday.

The leaves are sort of stiff and papery and the yellowing in appearance is similar to Chlorosis with green veins and yellow around them but I can't imagine bark based mix would have that problem.

I do have some calcium and magnesium in my city water and low amounts of chlorine but all my other pots with Ostrya, Thuja and Tsuga are doing great.

Anyone know what would cause this?



Comments (4)

  • 7 years ago

    I don't see any mention of fertilizer. Did you use any?

    User thanked Jean
  • 7 years ago

    I've typically noticed this on cold climate plants that are forced starting in midwinter not march, but I will throw it out there as a possibility. Something caused them to go dormant? Change in light/photoperiod? Exposure to too cold of temps after being in the house at a consistent temperature? When I've seen these winter forced plants go dormant in late spring they do typically resprout sometime in the summer. If the roots look healthy and looks like there are buds where the leaves fell off, wait it out and see what happens. And not all winter forced plants do this, only some species. Others will keep growing through the whole season.

    User thanked pennlake
  • 7 years ago

    Thank you for the responses!

    I did sprinkle a small amount of Osmocote on top of the soil/bark when I potted and used a weak mix of Miracle grow once a week for most of this time. The plants looked so good until a few weeks ago.


    I've mixed up 511 several times in the last couple of months so I've lost track but each batch had at least 2 weeks of getting mixed and wet before it was used. The bark looks so chalky on top but my water does leave residue which was why we put a water softener in over a year ago ( I still have a couple sources of the original hard water which I use for my plants).


    Dormancy could be it. Been slow to warm up here and have had several days that it didn't get out of the 40's and the plants were outside for a few hours at midday. And there were a couple of periods with week long cold spells (30's to 40's F), that everything stayed in the basement, under 'not so strong' lights (14 hr/day). We've had some low 70's on occasion but mostly 50's and low to mid 60's for highs on most days they've been out, so not ideal growing conditions.


    There appears to be beginnings of new buds at the leaf scars.

    And the rain barrel filled the other night so I'm able to use rain water again. :-)

    I also gave a regular dose of MG to everything yesterday and may just use weak MG mix from now on.

  • 7 years ago

    Update:

    I finally ditched this leafless plant, actually two of them.

    Neither started growing from the buds and I found some extras that came from seeds planted in 'out of the way' places in the yard.

    The replacement tree from those seeds, is already close to a foot tall and that's after insects had defoliated the 4" seedling, earlier this season.

    I also have a back up in a pot about 12" tall. So these 'dormant' ones are gone, end of story.

    New one in ground with 24" tube, healthy large leaves and growing as expected. :-)



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