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Is this drywall poorly done?

7 years ago

Hi, I recently did home reno. Here are some pictures of painted drywall.. I don't feel it's good enough. And I would like to have your opnion. Many thanks!




Comments (64)

  • 7 years ago

    I was literally going to say the same thing as Rob390!

  • 7 years ago

    Mrs.S. This is in Canada... And I had a reputable local general contractor to finish my basement. it's been two months and the work is still not finishing. And last night, when I inpect the work we noticed all these drywall problems....

  • 7 years ago

    Yao.....the work is so amazingly poor that I truly thought your original post was a spoof. Yikes.

    yao thanked User
  • 7 years ago

    yao, what do you mean by "reputable"? I find it hard to believe that work was done by anyone actually reputable.

    yao thanked Mrs. S
  • PRO
    7 years ago

    I'm not seeing any problem. You don't need to speak English to do drywall.

  • 7 years ago

    Joseph......Huh? You don’t see a problem with the drywall?

  • 7 years ago

    You can always take it up with our Quality Kontroll Department.

    Eh?



  • 7 years ago

    Worthy....you got me with “Eh?”.

  • PRO
    7 years ago

    Yikes! You actually had to ask? I would not have accepted this if my two grandsons had done it! In fact, when one grandson was 15, he did repair damaged drywall in his garage "office", and did a far better job.

    yao thanked Anglophilia
  • PRO
    7 years ago

    "Joseph......Huh? You don’t see a problem with the drywall?"


    nidnay:


    Please have your sarcasm detector recalibrated; obviously it isn't working.

  • 7 years ago

    Haha.....missed it both times. Recalibrating......

  • PRO
    7 years ago

    Some poor drywall jobs qualify to be called "low relief sculpture".

  • 7 years ago

    Had no idea that Stevie Wonder was taking on side work as a drywall finisher.


  • 7 years ago

    Hahahahaha Hahahaha! Oh, the comments!!! Oh my!!! LOL! @OP, so sorry this happened... yeah, it’s bad. Real bad.

  • 7 years ago

    Had no idea that Stevie Wonder was taking on side work as a drywall finisher.

    Dude.

    With his obvious mad-skills dexterity with like five (?) different instruments, I'd take Mr. Wonder any day!

  • 7 years ago
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    The little blue pieces of painters tape are pretty funny.

  • 7 years ago

    Check for Jimmy Hoffa behind that tape.

    Or possibly something from a bad 80's horror movie.

  • 7 years ago

    Wow! I think my granddaughters, ages 4 and 5, could do better.

  • 7 years ago

    Troll alert.

  • 7 years ago

    Yao, was the drywall put directly on top of concrete block or is the drywall attached to wood studs?

  • 7 years ago

    Did you say this was the ceiling? I am seeing wood floor and what looks like an electrical plugin. Bad, bad, bad work. I would not allow them to try to fix it.

    This is SO bad, I have a hard time believing it.



  • 7 years ago

    I think Hot Rod is correct.

  • 7 years ago
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    Omg, did one of the drywallers get stuck back there?

    Nevermind - just read all the other comments that mentioned it.

  • PRO
    7 years ago

    The bright side... it couldn't get any worse.

  • 7 years ago
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    Seriously? Is this post REAL?


  • 7 years ago
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    I hope you haven't paid the drywall folks yet. You probably already have but you have 'excellent' evidence they didn't install correctly in small claims court. They should come back and install correctly and pay for your court costs.

  • 7 years ago

    Thank you guys for all your feedbacks. The drywall is on framing wood stud. I have 1400sqf basement. All the walls look awful under light. I didn't upload ceiling picture. They look similar to the walls with more waves. General contractor came already. At beginning he said he couldn't see. Until we put the light on he admitted this was mistake. We thing what happened was they engaged someone new for taping. The new person did awful job. The onsite project manager (from General contractor side) didn't report this defect to general contractor and he just let the project continue until we (who dontt have any construction knowledge) found out. right now, they start to fix the walls and ceilings and promise to complete all work in one week. Hope things turn brighter....

  • 7 years ago

    Wait this is a real post? WOW, no words.

  • 7 years ago

    A lot of people had to ignore this poor work for several days, if not weeks for this to happen. After the taping and mudding was done, the walls had to be primed and painted, the trim installed, and the light trims and outlet cover plates installed. Oddly none of those people questioned it? And you pay your general contractor to do this sort of basic quality control and to stop work when necessary when there is a major issue.


    What are they proposing as a fix? With as much excess mud on the drywall that has to come off and with it already painted, I'd be skeptical that they would be able to get a good finished product now without taking it down and replacing, or without skimming the entire surface, but maybe it's possible. Either way hold them to providing "like new" work. They were not brought in to do a patch job; this is their mistake, and the GC is just at much at fault as the drywall installer.

    yao thanked A Fox
  • 7 years ago

    Hi, thanks for your advice! It is very odd to us too... After we talked to general contractor, some workers privately told us yesterday they noticed the problem of the wall. When we asked why he didn't point out, he just kept silent... I definately maintain high skepticism on the entire team. Currently, general contractor said he would do entire wall and ceiling. We noticed they fixed one upstairs (which has same problem) by add skim coating. But I am not sure if they would do it on everything... Also they would do the work during we are on vacation... I actually don't really trust them any more... But we just don't want to live in a construction field any longer..almost three months...

  • 7 years ago

    Skim coating isn’t going to fix this.

    yao thanked Bri Bosh
  • 7 years ago

    yao, cancel your vacation. You need to be at home or at least on-site a significant amount to pay attention to what's happening. I'm curious: you still haven't stated how you determined that your GC is "reputable". Is he licensed?

    My bet is that, depending on the scope of the work you contracted for, you have numerous problems, and they could be worse than this drywall issue. If you have had these people do electrical, plumbing, bathroom remodeling...... I'd get someone in there to look over their work. Take photos of everything while it's in process.

    Document every conversation in a follow-up email. Document every single complaint, with photos, in emails. If the contractor agrees with you verbally, document that in a follow-up email. You see?

    Whatever you do, do not get "ahead" of the payment schedule no matter what pressure is applied to you. Withold the payments until each step is completed to standard. If you have any questions, these forums are a good place to steer you towards the path you need to take.

    yao thanked Mrs. S
  • 7 years ago

    what would be the proper way to fix it? Just to my knowledge... Retaping?

  • 7 years ago

    The general contractor has been in business for more than 10 years. He has done a lot work in the neighborhood and I visited one of the job they were doing. Plus, one of neighbor gave good reference. The general contractor is licensed and BBB business. Plumbing and electriciens are subtrade and they are all licensed. Inspection has been done so far. The taping worker is not the one they originally listed in contract. It's new person and that might lead all problems... I will take all your advice and keep all records and document everything.

  • 7 years ago

    What a huge hassle for you!!! I’m so sorry... and I really hope they’re able to make it totally right. It really is the most horrendous drywall job I’ve ever seen.

  • 7 years ago

    Make sure whoever did the original drywall job isn’t allowed back in. Whoever did this is not capable of a skim coat.

    yao thanked Bri Bosh
  • 7 years ago

    Thanks Bri bosh. This is super helpful! Thanks for your advice.

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    I'm pretty sure I could drywall better than that with my eyes closed... and I've never drywalled in my life - though I have seen in person how it is done.

    Unfortunately, your GC doesn't always have the opportunity to hire the same people for every job. And I now see (reading up) he brought in "people" he hadn't used before.

    What is the GC comment on this? If he's also not mad at his subs... and I'd be disappointed in him if he paid them the final cost.

    Needs ASAP fixing, no cost to you.

    Document - the photos are a good start.



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    what would be the proper way to fix it? Just to my knowledge... Retaping?

    It all has to be pulled off. SOme of the Sheetrock outer layer may come off with the taping when pulled. Depending on how much, it may be that certain areas may need new Sheetrock. That part leave to an independent expert to judge. (Those areas may perhaps just need expanded taping, but I'm no expert.) Then, re-tape, and so forth.

    The damage looks like far more than the taping compound... it's the actual underlying taping as well. It looks like someone slammed potatoes into your wall and didn't even bother to flatten them down.

    I do want to know what the GC says, or if he plans to "excuse" this trash. Get him to say what he has to say in writing/on a text or computer e-mail message, not just verbally. (Documenting.)

    Best of luck and success!

  • 7 years ago

    They need to make a drywall jail

  • 7 years ago

    Perhaps someone else has already said this, but IMHO, I would want it to be completely torn out & all new drywall hung. The time it would take to fix this properly would be at least DOUBLE vs. a complete do over. The GC can make the crew that did this tear it out, clean it all up and haul it away. Then insist that an experienced team do the job!

    Otherwise, someone will go around with a light, shine it here and there, and do just enough that you are sick and tired of talking about it. But from this day forward - every time you turn on a lamp, open the shades, or anything else where light hits the wall "wrong", you will see the crap job that was left.

    Minor things in drywall can be fixed - THIS is not fixable!

  • 7 years ago

    yao.....you need to install trail cams while you are on vacation while they do the work. Hide them. . You can rent them.

  • 7 years ago

    robin - Why hide them...it's her house. It's a great idea, but I think I would actually make a point to let them know cameras are there. Might do better work, knowing someone is watching.


  • 7 years ago

    "Might do better work, knowing someone is watching."


    They knew someone was going to inhabit that pictures above and thought it was acceptable! You need to start over with a different drywall guy. There is no easy way to fix that. Drywall is relatively cheap, it will cost more to float every wall flat and there is no guarantee that it will look any better. Damage is done, rip the bandaid and apply fresh. Period. Stop.

  • 7 years ago

    Drywall sander will take it down, with some mud I've fixed far worse.. Anything over 1/16 is NOT acceptable. When you walk along the wall and can feel the imperfection with your hand - you know it is not right. I do not understand why it was painted.

  • 7 years ago

    Guys, big thanks from me! So many good advice and professional opinions! These really help a lot! I had discussion with general contractor again last night. He claimed he had fired the taping person. He is shamed. He along his most experienced and long term relationship sub trade will start fix the wall from today. He will do skim coating and he mentioned if drywall need to be replaced he will do it. He admitted onsite project manager did not do good job to ensure quality instead just rushing to get things done. He promised everything would be perfect in one week. He mentioned his reputation is more important and he would do best to make it perfect. I really appreciated someone mentioned camera. Yes, we do have internal and external camera and I do notified general contractor those are for security reason. let us see the result in one week.

  • 7 years ago

    Skim coating is not going to fix this.

  • 7 years ago

    yao....sounds great. Send us new pics.

  • 7 years ago

    I just got finished repairing a 25 yo homewith bad taping skim coated ceiling n 80 % of the rooms walls. I hate Sheetrock work so u guys that do it full time u r boss;) I’ve only seen-this level of problem only after water leak. I’ve been doing fixer up sales for 20 years and do a lot of wrk myself gotten really good but yep would called in the pro for a whole room that need that much work Holy sh*t that was a new install. Glad they’re making it right for ya.

  • 5 years ago

    Its not looking good at all. Try different & best sander for drywall.