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Replacing pool decking with pavers, but what about diving board?

7 years ago

I have decided to replace the concrete and brick pool decking with limestone or travertine pavers using a dry install of sand and gravel. But how would handle the installation of pavers where I plan on reinstalling a diving board? I assume there need to be some sort of concrete to make sure the pavers don't lift when someone jumps but I am not sure how to address this issue.


Ideas?


Comments (37)

  • PRO
    7 years ago

    Hi Traciel, my recommendation is to contact a couple of pool installation company's in your area and invite them out to give you some advice and suggestions. You'll find that there's is more to the job you're asking about then you realize. Best of luck on your project. Jerome DeMarco ART.chitecture

    traciel thanked Jerome DeMarco ART.chitecture
  • PRO
    7 years ago

    The diving board would be anchored separately from the pavers. The pavers would abut the diving board base/anchor. How is DB anchored now?

    traciel thanked Yardvaark
  • 7 years ago

    @yardvaark - The entire area surrounding the board is concrete so I assume it is bolted into the concrete. I was just wondering how people incorporated diving boards into decorative pavers.

  • 7 years ago

    Here, most people remove them first because they are a liability and increase insurance premiums.

    traciel thanked jslazart
  • 7 years ago

    We took our diving board out due to safety issues. Kids jumping sideways off the board and hitting the edge of the pool. Adults diving and hitting the bottom of the pool.

    traciel thanked Jacqui Naud
  • 7 years ago

    I thought about removing it for asthetic reasons, but my kids (who grew up with the pool) and their friends like it Not so sure about insurance costs, but I have had the home and pool for 16 years I don't know the difference.

  • 7 years ago

    We did pavers around our pool but did concrete for diving board area, we did

    it all ourselves and this seemed the easiest option for us and if I remember correctly it needed to be in concrete


    traciel thanked KATHY
  • 7 years ago

    Are you sure you want dry set pavers on a pool deck? Sand and pools are not a great mix. And I don't care if you put polymetric sand down, you will still have weeds and "mess".

    traciel thanked suedonim75
  • 7 years ago

    @ Kathy - Wow, great job with the pool. So you just went for a different look for the diving board area?

  • 7 years ago

    @Suedonin75 - First, great online name! Second, are you saying the the weeds ad mess are particular to pool installations? Or do you find this an issue with dry set pavers in general?

  • 7 years ago

    Yes we have a different look at diving board end but it is a smaller area like maybe 5x7 area. See if I can find a better pic. We do get weeds and ants around the pool. We did a mortar

    sand mix between pavers and it has held up well. It is a nice clean install and I like the look doesn’t detract at all

    from overall look



    traciel thanked KATHY
  • 7 years ago

    Well that pic didn’t help

    traciel thanked KATHY
  • 7 years ago

    I will

    take one when I get home that shows it better

    traciel thanked KATHY
  • 7 years ago

    that 2nd pic shows it, if you click on it


    traciel thanked KATHY
  • 7 years ago

    Both! Pavers (dry set), get weeds and the sand gets everywhere. They aren’t easy to clean either. I think around a pool would be even worse.

    traciel thanked suedonim75
  • PRO
    7 years ago

    Ugh, I couldn't agree more about dry set pavers and polymeric sand (doesn't work). We had brick in sand for many years, and got so fed up with pulling weeds and putting down insect killer. Just this year we installed a bluestone deck, mortared in. What a difference!!!

    traciel thanked Diana Bier Interiors, LLC
  • PRO
    7 years ago
    last modified: 7 years ago

    If you are removing the concrete that the diving board is attached to, you would still need to create a base of concrete to anchor it to. It could be subterranean and you cover it over with pavers. Or it could show, as a concrete element is usually not visually at odds with pavers. (It would need to be sufficient concrete to do the job of anchoring the board in use, plus a "cushion" for safety.)

    traciel thanked Yardvaark
  • 7 years ago

    Here is the pic I tried several times yesterday to post from my phone


    traciel thanked KATHY
  • 7 years ago

    @Kathy - Thank you so much Kathy for taking the time to find the photos. Huge help.

  • 7 years ago

    I have had three contractor give me an estimate and no one ever mentioned a thing about the diving board. I assume they didn't think about it because they are not pool contractors. I was staring at the diving board trying to think what I would get as a replacement when I realized I had a issue.

  • 7 years ago

    Now that people raise the issue of weeds with a dry installation, I potentially have a whole different issue. Lots of people in my neighborhood have dry installed paver driveways and I haven't noticed any weeds. Maybe the dry Southern California air makes a difference? While I am not going to use small concrete pavers, but rather large stone pavers (24 x 24 or 18 x 24) perhaps fewer joints would reduce the risk of weeds.


    I just wanted a dry install to be able to make any repairs in the future without having to demolish concrete.

  • 7 years ago

    I like the subterranean idea above, I think the diving board needs to be in 5-7"? of concrete. would be like putting a footing in the ground but would need longer bolts than what is supplied with diving board and I would ask those specific contractors what there plan for diving board is. We couldn't live without diving board, 2 boys and their children love it.

    traciel thanked KATHY
  • 7 years ago

    @Yardvaark - I like they idea of of keeping the concrete base and covering with motored pavers. I need to figure out what additional issues that might cause and have my estimates amended.

  • PRO
    7 years ago

    Someone must design it before you bid it. If the contractors are designing on the fly while they're bidding, you could end up with just about anything. They don't even know.

    traciel thanked Yardvaark
  • PRO
    7 years ago

    I'd remove the diving board completely. I have 2 pools and never considered doing a diving board--they are very dangerous.

    traciel thanked Diana Bier Interiors, LLC
  • 7 years ago

    Mystic, that was very interesting to read, thank you.

    traciel thanked Anna (6B/7A in MD)
  • PRO
    7 years ago

    Some homeowner's insurance companies frown upon diving boards, as they are considered a risk. But they will have no problem charging you should you decide to have one.

    Trampolines are even a greater risk to insurance companies.

    traciel thanked Mystic Pools, LLC
  • 7 years ago

    OMG, I go to bed and wake up to a wonderful explanation by Mystic. After reading your informative explanation, I am now afraid of even getting in the pool since I researched "bonding." I had a jacuzzi added to the pool about 10 years ago so I think some of these issues were addressed, but I will confirm. This go round, I simply wanted to replace the old concrete decking and add pool automation but I wanted to use the opportunity to install anything I could think of below ground. Thanks for giving me more the think about.

  • 7 years ago

    Having grown up with pools, I have always had pools with diving boards all of my life. However, I now see that every luxurious picture of new pools have no board. Hmmm, fun or fashion that is the question. We have paid so much insurance for so long, I don't see that cost as an issue.




    I have attached a couple of additional pool photos. Please let me know if there is anything else I should be considering .

  • PRO
    7 years ago

    In my opinion, proper bonding is the most important aspect of a swimming pool. Improperly bonded or pools not bonded have caused deaths. It's not to be taken lightly.


    As I had stated, an electrician or pool pro who has knowledge of pool electricity is the best person to evaluate your current condition and advise you on any corrections to be made to bring it to the current code requirement and, make it safe.

    We have been required by town building depts. on some residential renovations to have a bond test performed by a trained individual to prove the current bonding is ok. A written document accompanies these tests.

    In New Jersey for instance, public pools must get tested and certified every 5 years for bonding.


    Diving boards are fine provided the pool meets the current standard for one.Yes, they are fun for the kids-and some adults!

    traciel thanked Mystic Pools, LLC
  • 4 years ago

    Hi Traciel- i have the EXACT same diving board from an okd Anthony pool and same dillema of having to reanchor after ripping out old concrete abd replacing with pavers. Where did you land with this? im likely going to just reanchor in 6” of concrete beneath the pavers

  • 4 years ago

    I ultimately decided to let the diving board go since my kids have grown up. It does look murch more elegant. Here is quick picture I took after they finished.


  • 4 years ago

    Looks great! my kids are grown up but im he biggest kid in the family and still love diving boards! posted to teoublefree pools

    forum. will prob just pour new 6” footings of concrere for the legs and spring

    traciel thanked Tim Elghazaly
  • 3 years ago

    Traciel - your pool surround looks great! Did you end up going with dry installation or concrete? We are about to start the pool deck renovation and have the same delimma.

  • 3 years ago

    We did a dry installation and so far it has worked out fabulously. The thing I like most about the dry installation is that it allows me to make any repairs under the patio without having to break up concrete.

  • 3 years ago

    Thank you for responding! My husband wants to do the same because of the gumbo soil here in Houston Tx. Thanks again!