Sounds strange, perhaps there is a misunderstanding?

The okna 400 only comes with internal grids and the same with the 500 series. The 500 does come in new construction and replacement. The 800 is basically replacement and does come with external grids and grids between the glass. You could do a new construction install with the 800 series if a “snap in“ flange is used.

the Okna 600 series is Okna’s newest window and does come in both new construction and replacement and does come with either external ( SDL) grids or grids between the glass. The Okna 600 is very similar in both performance and design to the 800.

Pretty much summed up by Windowmaster.

The 505 is the new construction variant of the 500 series.

Thanks, guys, for the information. I think maybe he just doesn't sell the 500 so he wasn't aware? I read that Okna won't let dealers in the same area sell the same products.

I didn't realize the 500 doesn't come with external grids, and I do think I want that, so thank you for confirming. I have a phone call in to Okna for a dealer who sells 600.

That said, the price I was quoted for 12 Okna 800s, with exerior grids, was $8600, Any thoughts on that?

I agree with toddinmn. Seems good. Not sure what the 600 series would be with external.

I'd probably jump on that 800 pricing, its very aggressive, particularly if it includes SDL (external) grids... As you alluded to before with the competing products in a given market, most dealers will have access to a couple of lines. The others may or not even be available in your given market. The 600 is an excellent window as well, only a small step down in both performance and price from the 800 so you may not see any savings. Frankly, if its from another dealer, I wouldn't be shocked for you to get a higher price on the 600 due to just how aggressive that 800 pricing is....

I think the pricing is good without the SDL, if it includes the SDL I’d say it is perhaps to low. SDL’s often exceed the cost of the window itself.

Agree with Toddinmn on sdl price. The Okna 600 series may be priced better than the 800 series. The sdl grids add up big time on any window.

Shannon, Okna's are typically sold thru an installing dealer.

When you used the word “supercilious ” I had to look it up since my vocabulary is somewhat limited. Wouldnt using that word with pompous be like saying one is dumb and stupid?

This is all entertaining, but it seems like two ways to skin the same cat @Shannon and windowmater.

One of you has George Constanza “jerk store“ inspired comebacks, while the other uses a word like supercilious in way that anyone would find extremely ironic, and then scolds the other for his insults while underhandedly comparing him/her to someone with Alzheimer’s. Fun read though.

As for the actual question at hand, sounds like a screaming deal on that 800 window. Easy choice.

Fair enough Fridge2020.

Though the “someone with Alzheimer’s“ is my mother. I honestly have had to use that technique when she is having a meltdown and saying irrational things; I wasn’t being underhanded, I meant it. Not cool to bring that into your critique.

Playing the alzheimers card ? I call bs and even true irrelevant.

Look, this guy came out of left field and started with the cyber bullying me for no reason at all. I have been on this forum for 10 years. I defended myself. The guy is mentally ill evidently. No one on this forum said a word about what he said. You were all fine with it. As long as it's not directed at you. Like boys in the playground giggling behind their hands you hoped it wouldn't be directed at you, so you say nothing, though Fridge2020 had to step in and say how entertained he was by the bullying. Toddinmn, I can't believe you. Read what that guy said to me for crying out loud. You call bs on me, but not one WORD from you on what he said. SMH. What a bunch of cowards this Windows forum is. Not a word against what this guy said. But you can't wait to hone in on me. What is wrong with you people. Do you not read what he said - but you pile onto me? Perhaps Windowmaster will be pleased with you now.

Edited to add: I see some of Windowmaster's more vicious posts have been deleted or edited. Trying to paint a different picture from what he said originally.

Thanks for all the helpful comments. I had someone else out yesterday and should get an estimate soon, and then I'll decide.

@Shannon, not sure why assumed I didn't trust the Okna dealer. I don't know him at all, this was the first time I met him, so of course I wasn't going to give him the kind of complete and utter trust I have in a family member or close friend, or even a contractor I've used many times before. He said some things that I had questions about, and the responses I received led me to believe that he was probably just mistaken about the one thing, and was correct about the other. These guys let me know it was a solid price, which is another plus in his column - he wasn't trying to take advantage of me, which has certainly happened before with other contractors. So, if I decide to go with Okna I'll happily take the deal.

@PinkDahlia, thanks for the update. Just reaffirms my thought that you seem to have a pretty good option on the table, but certainly don't hesitate to get another or two if you are still unsure.

Well, I got one more quote. $19K for ViWinco Cambridge. Sounds to me like highway robbery. I let my Okna guy know I'm going with him. He's sending the contract over. Thanks again, all!

ViWinco is a builders grade window that i wouldnt pay $19 for, never mind 19k. Its laughable.

I know, I'm scratching my head over that. I can't understand what he was thinking.

Maybe he is just really bad at math.