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Any Way To Convert Pool to Transparent Solid Surface?

6 years ago
last modified: 6 years ago

If you had a large backyard pool, and you wanted to host parties in that area that might have 50 to 100 people, is there any off-the-shelf product that would let you build a transparent deck over the pool? I am imagining a surface where 50 people might stand and dance or talk and be able to see the moving and illuminated water under their feet. If you could pull that off, it would look quite amazing.

In a perfect world, this might be a surface that you could either dismantle or move out of the way on sliding tracks.

I have seen products that build a wood deck over a pool, but I am not sure I would want the weight of 50 people on that.

Comments (21)

  • 6 years ago

    Off the shelf? no.


    Think steel and glass structure. With fairly unlimited funds, you could probably have it motorized and slide over the surface like a translucent cover.


    Think $250K or so

    westes Zone 9b California SF Bay thanked just_janni
  • 6 years ago

    "With fairly unlimited funds"


    My gut would say to remove the word fairly..........................

    westes Zone 9b California SF Bay thanked millworkman
  • PRO
    6 years ago

    Yeah, I'm going with 250k too.

    westes Zone 9b California SF Bay thanked Joseph Corlett, LLC
  • 6 years ago

    Move out of the SF Bay area and you'll be able to spend less on a house that has a real backyard for entertaining 100 people and you get to use your pool too!!

    westes Zone 9b California SF Bay thanked chispa
  • 6 years ago
    westes Zone 9b California SF Bay thanked ILoveRed
  • 6 years ago

    I immediately pictured that movie scene too. :)

    westes Zone 9b California SF Bay thanked greg_2015
  • westes Zone 9b California SF Bay thanked Trish Walter
  • 6 years ago

    I hear that Star Trek’s transparent aluminum actually has been invented. But something off the shelf? A custom problem requires a custom solution.

    westes Zone 9b California SF Bay thanked User
  • PRO
    6 years ago

    Is that $250k that is being thrown around for the construction cost or the design/engineering fees?

    westes Zone 9b California SF Bay thanked Mark Bischak, Architect
  • 6 years ago
    last modified: 6 years ago

    Maybe $1000 worth of gelatin?;-0

    westes Zone 9b California SF Bay thanked Olychick
  • westes Zone 9b California SF Bay thanked suero
  • 6 years ago
    last modified: 6 years ago

    Suero, I think my grandson watches that guy on youtube. Or some young guy(s) who do stuff to pools then try bouncing things like bowling balls or something. I always think they need to get a real job, but apparently they can become youtube millionaires. crazy

    westes Zone 9b California SF Bay thanked Olychick
  • 6 years ago

    I contacted a firm that does a sliding concrete slab over a pool, and they want between $240K and $800K for a 20x40 pool. Since that slab costs about $10K to $15K to build, that puts the cost of the track, the wheel system, and the automation at over $220K, minimum.

    That looks like about an 80% gross margin for someone....

    Is it right that no vendor makes an off-the-shelf wheel and track system for concrete slabs?

  • PRO
    6 years ago
    last modified: 6 years ago

    15K for the slab is very low for a specific situation engineered cable tensioned reinforced slab that can endure the stresses of a cantilever. This isn’t a building slab supported by the ground. It has to support it’s own weight and be engineered for earthquakes. Triple that guess. Then add the rest of the materials. Say another 45K. So 90K for materials. 130K for knowing how to put the parts together, and assuming the huge risks associated with such a system, and business overhead costs, is not unreasonable.

    westes Zone 9b California SF Bay thanked User
  • 6 years ago

    Olychic...if you can get enough likes on Instagram you dont have to get a job either. The ads pay you to make a living. This according to my daughter...She is very bright so I would hate for anyone to judge her but she is a big Bachelo/Bachelorette fan. Apparently none of those folks have to work if they can get enough likes on Instagram!

    westes Zone 9b California SF Bay thanked ILoveRed
  • 6 years ago

    That's funny ILR. I don't do instagram, so I don't get it or why getting followers would make $$. I do confess to a guilty pleasure of the Bachelor/Bachelorette shows and it's amazing how many have no professions or even jobs it appears.

    westes Zone 9b California SF Bay thanked Olychick
  • 6 years ago

    Olychick - there job is influencer. Some of those Bachelor/Bachelorette contestants make more in a month shilling things than I do in a year. I too love those shows. I wouldn't have a job either if I could just post online and get paid for it.

    westes Zone 9b California SF Bay thanked tiggerlgh
  • 6 years ago

    Yes, this can be done.

    No, it doesn't cost $250k.

    No, it's still not convenient.

    A simple system using wood beams and steel brackets will run about $12k to $15k. A custom built modular system will run between $30k and $45k. You can probably DIY it for under $10k if you don't need the surface flush.

    Pools are not typically that wide. The cheapest systems just use brackets that attach to standard 2x12's and thick acrylic sheets. Drilled and eased edge acrylic sheets will run you about $6k for a 16'x32' pool. The brackets are basically powder coated plate steel hangers that adjust the surface down to pool level. You could forego the brackets if you just want a raised surface...

    In all of the systems you are going to have those long beams and people to carry them when you want to change over. Two or three healthy people can probably do it. You are also going to have to have a space to store 16' beams.

    In the custom made systems the acrylic panels are typically mounted in frames which are then dropped into the appropriate spots. The system we used installed without any fasteners, it just locked in as you dropped the panels in. Both are available in CA.

    Just Google pool dance floor cover and scroll past all the rental companies. You will eventually find a fabricator.

    Good luck

    westes Zone 9b California SF Bay thanked bry911
  • 6 years ago
    last modified: 6 years ago

    @bry911 It looks like they are charging about $8K+ just to rent the kind of hand-installed system you are describing. You think to purchase outright is $12K to $15K, or that assumes I am doing my own engineering and paying a fabricator?

    If you were going to use this kind of beam construction that takes a long time to install and take down, you might be better off just building a bridge across the pool one-time-only, and then the pool is still usable underneath the dance floor.

  • 6 years ago

    First, what shape is your pool and what are the dimensions? A standard rectangle 16'x32' pool will not require a lot of engineering detail. In the end, it is just a 16' span. That is not to say that it will not require any engineering, it will require some, but we are likely not talking a mint here.


    Thisis the first fabrication company I found on a Google search, Their bracket system (pictured below) runs $7,250 for a 16'x32' pool. It will come with plans that have probably been a bit over engineered. You are probably talking another $7k in acrylic, wood boards and bolts. So yes, I think it can be done for $15k. Paint the beams to match the brackets (or paint both white) and you will have an acceptably cool system.



    If you don't mind paying an engineer a thousand bucks to do the calculations for you, acceptable brackets could be fabricated for significantly less money. I could honestly recreate the brackets pictured in my limited shop out of a box beam and some plate steel for probably $50 per bracket.


    Their modular system looks much nicer and will probably look better finished. The modular system we used was out of Europe but looks similar to theirs.

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    In my opinion, bridges are a bit of a catch 22. They look awesome, but someone will end up in the pool if you put a clear surface spanning part of the pool. In my case, it just seemed like a good idea after a few too many New Year's Eve refreshments... However, I also saw ladies in quite expensive gowns simply walk off the edge, thinking the walkway extended out more. A testament to the fact that alcohol impairs you decision making abilities. A bridge also ups the danger, as it obstructs your view of the pool.

    westes Zone 9b California SF Bay thanked bry911