Older oak that you are keeping but new counters as well . Get the counters down to your final pick or two .... it sounds like a lot of area so counters will be an expense for you. Pick counters you really like and then there will be a shade or 2 or 3 to coordinate for the cabs. Don’t worry about walls . Have you decided w good reasoning that painting cabs is wise . They are near 30 yr old and new can give you more options. I’m not sure that painting a ton of 30 y old oak cabs is what I’d do . Please explain more picture too ?? and people will chime in what they did and pros and cons of doing this vs. waiting and replacing

Poohla, there is no better program for seeing color than your own two eyes! Providing you aren’t colorblind that is! You may be going at this the wrong way or overthinking it. I’m not sure I understand your decision of collecting old cabinets though! It sounds as if you don’t even have a design plan yet and you are spending $$ on paint samples. Once you do know what your kitchen will ultimately look like and you still are undecided hire a color consultant to help you. I would be more concerned on the design plan and how you plan on actually painting all of these mismatched cabinets than what color they will be at this point!

lynartist, I am not buying cabinets from Habitat, just discarded doors that are of the same type wood to paint my color samples on. I am not changing my kitchen layout or redesigning anything other than with new paint and new counters. I guess I should call this a "facelift" or a "spruce-up" rather than a "re-design". So in actuality, color is my number one concern, since that is the only changes going on in my kitchen. I appreciate your direction and would wholeheartedly agree if I were doing a whole kitchen redesign. I did find on the SW site that I could download my pic and sort of plug in their colors. Problem is...of course the colors don't replicate exactly but it is a whole lot better than what I have been doing and for that I am happy. Thank you for your insight and input.

Sorry, I misunderstood! You can order pint samples from sampilize. This may help you visualize a bit better.

you've already painted doors w/the colors you like. that hasn't helped you visualize ? colors on computers aren't going to be any better.

when you say beige, what beige?

beige like this ^ or more of an antique white: (and these are oak cabinets that have been painted)

what countertop do you want? what's the flooring? Wall color can come after those other 3.

Pick a color you want for the cabs. then pick your countertop. if you're not changing your floor, then make sure the two items works with it.

I think you're really overthinking this.

Beth H. you are so right, I am overthinking this, but I am notorious for that. Again, it falls in the FOC category. My floors are my biggest problem in that they are a stained concrete in a pattern that was meant to look like stone and stained a sort of pink. I cannot change them or put anything on top of them without a whole lot of trouble. I don't want to play up to that color either, meaning I don't want to put any pink tones in that room, but I know I can't completely ignore them. I did a remodel in my master bath 10 years ago using SW Biscuit 6112 on the ceiling and doors and Bagel 6114 on the walls. I really like those colors and keep telling myself that I should just use that and get a granite that works. That would be the easiest thing to do and would be stress free, but I still obsess over making the perfect choice. Thank you for your input, I respect the comments you have made on other peoples threads and think you have such a great eye for this sort of thing.

The floor you describe sounds like you are in the white family for the cabs. Not beige ... a cooler white. Given everything going on head to a Benjamin Moore retail site and ask what 2 or 3 whites are the bulk of cabinet painters choices. They will know. Stick w what others in the trade are doing. It’ll be fine and then the counter will be easy.

Do you have other white trim in your house? Ideally, your trim and your cabinets should be the same white. Do you have white appliances?? If yes, they will almost certainly be a bluer white than the ideal cabinet colour white. (Think skim milk vs whole milk). Photos of your surroundings would help.

I agree with everyone who has suggested that if you have not been helped by painted door samples that on line soft ware is not likely to be of much help.

can you post a pic of the floors? lets see the color

And why can't you put anything over them? If you wanted to, you could do a floating floor, or lay down tile. (if it's super sealed, I don't know if you'd have adherence issues, so that's why I mentioned the floating option)

Elizabeth Minish Design, I don't have any white in the house. All my trim around doors and windows is stained to match the oak cabs. I think I am going to paint the trim when I paint the walls and cabs to tone down all the stain color. Appliances are brushed stainless and a black smooth cooktop. Yes, I have been convinced that a program will not help much. I used a program on the SW site that allowed me to download my picture and plug in their colors. That really is what I was looking for and it helped me at least to see all that beige on my cabs. Y'all have convinced me to not be so obsessed over this and just go with my gut on colors that make me happy. I thank you for all your input and great ideas, they are very helpful.

Beth H. the color of the cabs and even the wall color in the second pic you posted are absolutely beautiful. I see these pics and think that is exactly what I want, then see another pic of something slightly different and think THAT'S IT (think Lucy in the Charlie Brown Christmas show). I have fallen in love with 3 granite's that are totally different from one another and wish I could have them all. Haha. I realize I need to narrow things down and I am heading in that direction. With everybody's comments and suggestions, I am getting there. Thanks again.

poohla,,I just painted my cabs. after 15 years of the same old wood, I couldn't take it anymore.

I took months shopping for countertops. (and i'm on here all the time and see everything that's avail!) I'm so glad I painted them white. The kitchen is so much brighter. (still haven't picked a backsplash tile yet though!)

there are so many good before and afters. I mean, look at this one!

BTW, this is Dover White.

walk around a slab yard and get the slab that makes you happy. then pick your paint color.

you said your floors are somewhat pink? then do a soft white w/rose gold accessories (like the rug, hardware) pick a nice white w/o yellow.

It might be worth paying a color consultant to help you choose. Or maybe do some reading on Maria Killam's site...I ended up buying her two ebooks on choosing color/choosing whites and wish I'd come across those before I bought a bunch of paint samples trying to choose a wall color! It would have saved me some time and money. I'm not doing a kitchen remodel but will use the ebooks to help me make decisions for our bathroom remodel and when we add a countertop to our laundry room.

Beth H., the fact that my concrete floors are stamped makes them very uneven and wonky. The slab was poured and the color gets floated in, then they follow with rubber stenciled stamps to press the pattern into the concrete. There is nothing smooth about them and I have even stubbed my toe on an area where one spot sticks up by almost 1/8". To make a smooth subsurface, I would have to have someone come in and possibly pour some self leveler to fill in the divots and bumps from the pattern and build it enough to get a smooth finish. I'm not even sure that is possible, that is just what I think could work. If it did work and I put a tile or wood floor on top of that, I am sure it would raise the level of the floor at least 5/8" or more. I could just stain the finished floor, but again that is if this process is even possible. Believe me I have given this a lot of thought. I have come to hate this floor, but I think I have to live with it. We loved it in 1992 when we designed and built this house, but the times they have changed. Not withstanding, this floor goes throughout the entire center of my house as I have a completely open concept floorplan, kitchen to living room, front door to back door, about 72' long! A very involved process, to be sure. Here are a couple of pictures to give you an idea of the pattern and color.

The color in this pic is pretty spot on for the floor.

This pic is a tad bit lighter than the real color since I used a flash, but you get the idea of the pattern.

oh wow. those almost look like a saltillo tile.

what about if they came in and redid the color? you could have it acid etched and redone.

have you looked into that? you may have to go a little darker, but I think it would look bit better w/a more neutral tone to it. It would definitely be worth the money for that, and surely way cheaper than redoing all of the floors w/tile.

this is a restoration of stamped concrete.

even if they could lighten the color to more of a neutral, it would be worth it.

You could also check into skimming 1/4" of cement on top of it. it may be enough to give you a smooth finish, and then you could acid etch for a diff color. (I did it with out sons bedroom)

i'm thinking if you could do a thin overlay and then get a color like this with acid etching

why don't you call out a few concrete restoration places and see what they say? even if you have to spend a 3-5K, it's still cheaper than getting new floors. (because all of that would prob have to be jackhammered unless you want your flooring to raise by 3/4") \

at the very least, they should be able to slightly alter the pink tone. and even if that's all they can do, you can still work w/that color

look at these floors in the bottom pictures. like yours.

now imagine a nice white or even a soft gray paint color cabs. CleTile has the prettiest cherry blossom color Zelliege tiles. perfect as a backsplash w/white quartz or even a gray quartz.

Gorgeous!

Beth H., thank you for your suggestions. First of all...your kitchen makeover is AMAZING!!! You really did a beautiful job with that space. I would love it if I could do the skim coat and the acid etch. That is exactly what I have been thinking of doing and the color you showed in the first pic makes such a statement. Do you know the cab colors in the pic you showed with the word gorgeous and the Saltillo tile with the grey grout? That is the creamy color I think would work for me. I will research some concrete restoration in my area. Next weekend is our Home and Garden show and I might see somebody there about the concrete. Thanks again. I will let you know how it goes.

That wasn't my kitchen! .

and I just did this inlay over by the pantry area (with that same CleTile I mentioned!!)

there was no color listed for it. it looks like a cool off-white (rather than a yellow off white)

look at Alabaster

or this one.

swiss coffee is a favorite. bring home some samples.