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6 years ago

Hi. Working on a foundation redo. Symmetrical design. Right now both sides of front door have a Sky Pencil Holly, a three ft. Japanese holly in front of Sky Pencil and followed by two more Japanese hollies. It all has same texture and color. And I'm not a big fan of the Sky Pencil. I'd like to remove the Sky Pencils and replace with narrow, upright flowering shrub if such a thing exists for some variation and color. It is 5ft wide from the steps to the window as shown in photo. It is zone 6a in central Massachusetts. This is the north side of the house. Winters used to be verrrrry snowy here, but lately more wet with a freeze thaw cycle. My other thought is a variegated holly if I can find one narrow enough. I know it's tight spacing. Home owner wants to keep the Japanese holly but is open to moving the Sky Pencil. Thank you in advance for all thoughts.


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  • 6 years ago

    My rule of thumb for foundation planting is that there should be a foot or more between the plant and the wall of the house when the plant is mature.

    You should post a front on picture of your house taken further back so we can see the whole house.

    I think you could move the Sky Pencil Hollies somewhere else.

  • 6 years ago

    thank you, houssaon. I do plan to move the Sky Pencils. I agree with your rule for planting. I think I may be able to use a Purple Pillar Hibiscus (2-3 ft wide) and just sneak by.


  • 6 years ago

    I don't blame the Sky Pencil. I would remove the other shrub.


  • PRO
    6 years ago

    "My rule of thumb for foundation planting is that there should be a foot or more between the plant and the wall of the house when the plant is mature." Houssaon, doesn't it seem that barely anyone is paying attention to your rule ...?? :-)

    b_couetdesigns thanked Yardvaark
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    6 years ago

    While you are at it put the shutters where they belong or remove them, As for the plantings go to the local garden center and see what works in your area keeping in mind heavy snowfall can really play havoc with tall shrubs. IMO a much wider landing would be my first order of business and then maybe all you would need are 2 large planters one on each side of the door that could be planted with seasonal plants

    b_couetdesigns thanked Patricia Colwell Consulting
  • 6 years ago

    Agree that the narrow steps make the house look like a trailer. With exclamation mark hollies serving to emphasize this. Also these shrubs are not hiding the foundation. Clipping of other shrubs is also preventing them from getting big enough to do same.

    If this is the all day shade side of the house the hibiscus may not like it. Plus these will have no leaves from fall until late spring - it's better to have something evergreen at end points (corners) in beds, whenever possible.

    b_couetdesigns thanked Embothrium
  • 6 years ago

    'Laced Up' elderberry could be an option for a slender shrub that flowers.

    b_couetdesigns thanked chouchou_gw
  • 6 years ago


    Really need something broader and evergreen next to those steps, rather than two vertical bundles of what will be bare sticks for half the year.

    b_couetdesigns thanked Embothrium
  • 6 years ago

    I would recommend to the homeowner: investing first a larger porch or at least porch rails on this small stoop, which would help with curb appeal, and then landscape with something that is evergreen. Evergreen is more important than flowers here, Can always add annuals in two big pots as someone else said. So basically in my opinion it is not the landscaping that is lacking it is the size of the porch, looks a little hazardous, but has a lot of potential to be very pretty.

    b_couetdesigns thanked Sue Hughes Zone 6b in Pittsburgh
  • 6 years ago
    last modified: 6 years ago

    OP, are you the owner or the landscaper?

    If you are the owner, I agree with Patricia Colwell above. Put the shutters on the window frames where they belong (like below). It looks so much better than to have them completely detached from the window frame (and attached to the house inappropriately).


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    I don't know enough about landscaping, but I do agree that what you have now isn't working. Many of the posters above are right on point.

    b_couetdesigns thanked Denita
  • 6 years ago

    Thanks, everyone. Not the homeowner. I like the architectural ideas mentioned but don't believe that would be in the budget. Handrails, maybe. Steps are pretty high. I'm going to suggest he remove the Sky Pencil and the two clipped bushes in front of them and replace with a conical evergreen.

  • 6 years ago

    Just another thought...might work to leave the sky pencils and add more to total 3 on each side and sort of a graceful curve around the porch (instead of straight line)...as they are healthy and established and doing well in this location.

  • 6 years ago
    last modified: 6 years ago

    Not a bloomer, but remove the Sky pencils and the holly in front of them and replace with an upright variegated boxwood. Conical in shape. They are 'evergreen' so you have year-round appeal. Low maintenance. ...if they are hardy in your region.


  • 6 years ago
    last modified: 6 years ago

    But look how much better the full, rounded shapes that come up at least as high as porch level in the Yardvaark rendering look than the narrow 'Sky Pencil' hollies. And better than the other shrubs clipped to be quite low and small - the box pruned to be narrowly conical* would just be a minor variation on the hollies.

    (And then of course there is box blight...)

    *The one shown in the nursery pot is sheared to have that density and outline

  • 6 years ago

    Yardvaarka photoshop picture is worth a thousand words!

  • 6 years ago

    Thanks, Yardvaak, I like that look. Don't see why it always has to be the tall conical trees on either side, especially on a small house. Much softer looking.