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advice for what to do in kitchen

I have honey oak cabinets with beige tile counters and backsplash. I want to replace it with granite. I want a surface that I can put hot pots and pans directly from oven onto like I do with the tile. I understand I can do that with granite. I need advice as to color and thickness of granite. I would like to have granite backsplash as so tired of grout lines.

Also, should I paint cabinets white and get new hardware? If so does that happen before or after new countertops. We are also debating about replacing current tile floor (very hard to clean) with wood plank tiles we put in bedrooms and den. All this renovation depends on cost. See pictures. Please give advice.

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  • 5 years ago

    Granite can take it for a brief period but don't expect to leave hot pots and pans on your granite and not have it sustain some damage over time. You should get in the habit of using trivets or pot holders if you change. I think continuing your plank into the kitchen would be a great choice.

  • 5 years ago
    last modified: 5 years ago

    Like your kitchen as is. Would not paint the cabinets.

    You might find flat silicone hot pads style trivets helpful -- no need for raised trivets with the potential to slide or have a pan get knocked off of them.

    https://www.google.com/search?q=silicone+trivets+hot+pads&client=firefox-b-1-d&source=univ&tbm=shop&tbo=u&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwiN3JjIqYnqAhVzTTABHZEtAfYQsxh6BAgPECs&biw=1349&;

  • 5 years ago

    Suz, So you wouldn’t get rid of tile countertops and backsplash? I don’t want to use trivets. I love to bake and cook but I’m lazy and want to just put hot pans directly on counter. Right now I can do that but I hate how the grout looks so grungy and tile is dated. So that’s why I was thinking of getting granite.

  • 5 years ago

    While natural stones can withstand direct hot heat better than man-made counter materials, it is still recommended to use trivets. I cook or bake daily and never put hot pots and pans directly on my counters. Ever. It isn't difficult to get into the routine of using trivets, geesh.


    As for replacing everything... what is your budget? Properly painting cabinets can be costly, sometimes as expensive as replacing or refacing. Choosing granite can also be costly depending on the level of granite you purchase. Hard to advise without knowing your budget.

  • 5 years ago

    Read this article: https://www.granitegold.com/is-it-safe-to-put-hot-pans-on-granite/


    Even with granite, you should use some sort of protection between the hot pan and the counter surface.

  • 5 years ago

    Can you show a photo of the entire surrounding space? White cabinets might be very glaring depending on what your dining and living room areas look like. Your current color palette works very well. Have you considered just getting your tile counter and floors regrouted--maybe with slightly darker grout? That would be a whole lot cheaper than the a big do-over. Also do consider a great looking indoor outdoor runner for the floors in your palette and whatever palette you have in adjoining spaces.


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    I cook up a storm and just have flat silicone squares on the countertops. It's no big deal to put really hot pots on the them. They come in wonderful colors or no color but work better than trivets up on legs.

  • 5 years ago

    Wow I’m surprised that a few of you are encouraging me to keep things as is. I already have had my grout stained and sealed and it’s wearing away. Plus everything I read say tile countertops are dated. We want to update the kitchen and have set aside enough to redo countertops and possibly flooring throughout. I live in AZ so colors are Southwest colors-beige, brown, orange, gold etc. My kitchen , DR, and LR are all open to one another.

  • 5 years ago

    You can put hot pans on soapstone!

  • 5 years ago

    Honestly, I think it all looks great as is. I would definitely not paint your cabinets white. That would disturb the color flow and vibe you have going on. Your wood cabinets echo your really great looking armoire. Everything is southwest-y looking--sandy palette with reds and golds.

    You've made some good choices and have displayed your art work well. Maybe sheltering in place is getting to you! I'd suggested a kitchen rug


    . Since you have an oriental rug in the living room, get another one--a runner for the kitchen floor in the same palette--earthy reds that work with the sand beige, which seems very "Arizona" to me. And the silicone trivets. Then go have a mojito and watch the sunset.

  • PRO
    5 years ago

    Hmmm, interesting reading the comments. I think that white cabinets would look great, and some uppers with glass fronts, with new hardware, black or oil rubbed bronze. I would do a hood (either stainless or millwork over the range and take out the upper over there. That will open up the space so much. You could paint the island a contrasting color instead of it all being white too. If you can afford it and prefer wood I love the walnut finish cabinets or the lighter Scandinavian look, however with wood look floors I prefer the white, otherwise it all just blends too much. Definitely continue the wood look tile throughout. Perhaps new pendants over the island too.

  • PRO
    5 years ago

    quartz tops and backsplash would look great too. pretty hard-waring too.

  • PRO
    5 years ago
    last modified: 5 years ago

    jennifer, are those solid oak cabinets or are they an 'oak' finish? I ask because they look like more of that 'plastic' type of finish. Merely by looking at the island panel I can see that it's a veneer piece. If it's a wood veneer, that's fine, but it looks to be more of a laminate type of finish.


    You can tell by knocking on the surface or the doors, looking at the edges or on the inside of the cabinets. If they are more of a laminate type of finish, painting wouldn't be advised. just save up and get new ones.

    Cost to have cabinets like that painted (if they were real wood) would be in the 4-5K range

    granite, could be 2-4K. you could purchase an entire slab of granite for $800, depending on the type you choose. fabrication for your kitchen would be in the 2K-3K range, give or take.

    You could also look at pre-fab granite countertops. they come in 9' pieces, and island sizes. they are a bit cheaper.

    bringing in solid wood cabs, already painted, could be done for under 4K. Something to consider

    in the meantime, your tile countertops are well done. what you could do is try and paint the island yourself, and find a remnant piece to use on it. (or even a butcher block).

    I'd also trim out that island (the panels) to give it a more finished look






  • 5 years ago

    Thank you to the pros. I agree about removing microwave above range and getting a hood but where do I put my microwave? I believe my cabinets are solid or perhaps veneer. I definitely don’t think laminate as doors are thicker than cheap ones in laundry room. My original thought was to paint perimeter cabinets in white or cream and island in dark brown. But I’m torn about countertops and backsplash colors. And should I change those first or paint cabinets first? Or should I just remove all tile flooring in great room and replace with same wood look tile I have in other rooms? I don’t know what comes first and so undecided.

  • 5 years ago

    Are the cabinets hung over windows, or are those small windows up there behind them?


    What's on the other wall (to the right in the pictures)?


    I agree that a bright white might be too much, but a pale sandy color could look nice. You could do just the top cabs and island, if you wanted (agree on trimming the island, too).


    Have you considered getting new cabinet doors instead of painting? You could get the same color/wood if you like but just update the style. You have a lovely kitchen, but it is a bit "standard builder" for my personal taste; new doors would give it a new look without having to change colors. I had my three-inch-wide-beadboard doors made at Scherr's, but there are a lot of companies that will make you new doors.



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    These Shaker-style doors could look good:

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    I love these; I don't know if it's the look you're going for but I think they'd look beautiful and more modern while keeping your Southwestern style:



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    So that's something to consider, maybe?


    As for countertops, engineered quartz and concrete are both heat resistant (unless you seal the concrete).


    I really hope that helps!

  • PRO
    5 years ago
    last modified: 5 years ago

    I just had all of mine redone. while the cabinets were out being painted, I redid all of my floors. (it's very mess and dusty so you don't want freshly painted cabinets done first)


    Tile and hardwood. 800 sq feet of it.

    Get all of the demo done. Take up all of the flooring, tear off all of the counters.


    (after all the doors to cabs are removed) While the floors are up, they can come in and spray the cabinet skeletons.




    If your flooring guys are careful, they can then do the flooring, taking care around the base cabinets. With mine, I put heavy canvas tarps over them.

    As you can see, I had the cabs finished and the countertops in before the wood flooring went down. (this way I didn't have to worry about covering it all.


    However, you could choose to do all the flooring and then lay down a heavy resin paper so that it won't get damaged. wood floor install. (I lived in a state of reno for almost 3 months during this time. )


    Now, what's your budget? Because unless you figure out that one, it doesn't matter which order you choose!

    those microwave drawer micros cost upwards up 1500. If you have a limited budget, I wouldn't spend it on that.

    I have mine put under my wall oven. it's built in micro/countertop. cost was around 600. You have to be able to have ample clearance for depth, so make sure you read the rough-in dimensions.


    Are you sure you cabinets have a wood finish that can be sanded off and a primer applied?

  • 5 years ago

    Duh, can't believe I didn't even think of stainless steel for your countertops! Totally heatproof, easy to clean and sterilize, and would match your appliances:



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    You can get all kinds of finishes on stainless, too, it doesn't have to be really shiny and bright if you don't want that. Even if you just do stainless around the stove or on the island or wherever you generally put your hot pots and pans, and do the rest in a more traditional material.


    Stainless is also, iirc, not super expensive.


    Again, hope that helps!

  • PRO
    5 years ago

    many of my clients love the mw drawers, which can go in the island or wherever is practical for you. if you don't like that you can put in a full wall cabinet. Paint is usually last due to all the dust that happens in construction. As far as I know, in most of the projects I have done, floors first, then cabinets, slab counters, backsplash, lighting, lastly paint. I hope that helps.

  • 5 years ago

    Very cool idea about the stainless right next to the stove and a different countertop--either existing or new one for the rest since the color works so well in your open room. There are some stainless finishes in tan/reddish shades so you get a less industrial look. Good luck!

  • 5 years ago

    Thanks everyone. I so appreciate all your ideas and advice. Interesting about the stainless countertops as someone once told me to cover my island in copper to match my kitchen table. Perhaps I should start with the floor as I’ve always disliked my tile. It is porcelain with no glaze and little divots that collect dirt so very hard to clean. just dread doing the removal during this pandemic.

    Btw, someone asked if windows are behind cabinets. They are just above cabinets on an outside wall. To the right of the island is door to laundry, refrigerator, and pantry.