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4 years ago
last modified: 4 years ago

Hi, we just installed radon mitigation system today. I was not there, DH was...He told the installer to use the downdraft vent under the kitchen window, so it doesn't go wasted (we are getting rid of the downdraft range). I just saw the result. It's so ugly and has two 90 degree turns. It's like a centerpiece of the back of the house and that window next to it is my master bathroom window. I can hear the fan loud and hear!

The backyard is untidy now because we haven't move in. It will be a nice backyard and I just don't know what to do with this ugly thing. Am I just overreacting or it's just not in the right place?


Comments (15)

  • 4 years ago

    Well, it's not optimal. Straight down and next to the other meter would have been better. But it's also not the end of the world. First thing: find out how much it will cost to have it re-routed. If the cost is worth it to you, do that. If not, plant a hedge under the window to cover the horizontal part of the installation and call it done.

    A Green thanked Jennifer K
  • 4 years ago
    last modified: 4 years ago

    The basement is unfinished, so there might be opportunities to strategically place the pipe. The current installation is digging a hole in the ground, straight up, using existing vent out. I was charged $1000...there has to be a way to vent out via the garage attic, I hope.

  • 4 years ago
    last modified: 4 years ago

    Yes: there is already ugly there because of the meter, the new problem is the bringing of the pipe across from beneath the window instead of paralleling the meter. And the answer is planting shrubs in strategic positions so as to mask the utilities.

    Without blocking access - the fact that you took your picture from way out in the yard may indicate you don't need the homely features to be completely out of sight when looking from close by.

    Of course, the fan noise will not be taken away by planting shrubs. To be rid of that you will have to move the whole thing to some other part of the house.

    A Green thanked Embothrium
  • 4 years ago

    I do not know the type of pipe used but simply painting it the same color as the house and foundation or very close to it will help it blend in. Since the other mechanical stuff is also considered an eyesore but necessary perhaps just living with it for a while will help. You may find the noise more objectionable than the visual.

    A Green thanked maifleur03
  • 4 years ago

    Next let's talk about the excessive pruning ("stripping") of the trees...

  • 4 years ago
    last modified: 4 years ago

    Haha. Embothrium, I was wondering when someone would notice those trees! Another project done when I was not on site...

  • 4 years ago

    The one on the right looks like big sections of bark have been dropping off which is not a good sign.

  • 4 years ago

    All I have to say, is that I'm sorry you let yourself get dragged into the radon BS. There is little to no danger in anyone's home from radon and there never has been. The model and practices that the EPA uses to determine "safe" levels of radon are considered a joke by scientists in the physics and industrial hygienic industry.


    Don't take my word for it though, here is a thorough review of the literature and research by five physicists at the University of Oslo. It's 52 pages long so you can read it for yourself, but the TLDR version of their conclusion is: there is no reason to mitigate radon in your house and you might actually be hurting yourself. https://www.mn.uio.no/fysikk/tjenester/kunnskap/straling/radon-and-lung-cancer.pdf

    A Green thanked Super Lumen
  • 4 years ago

    the one on the right is a honey locus. you are right, it’s unhealthy. let’s see how long we can still have her.

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    4 years ago

    You can hide this with an artificial living wall. They can be installed anywhere and look amazing with out any hassle of the upkeep of living

    Upscapers plants.

    A Green thanked UpScapers - Authorized Vistafolia Partner
  • 4 years ago
    last modified: 4 years ago

    Super Lumen- Despite your poo-pooing of radon risks, the vast majority of environmental scientists take it seriously and do not subscribe to your assertion that "there is no reason to mitigate radon in your house and you might actually be hurting yourself." The reference you cited is something of an outlier among the scientific community. It's not clear what the exact intent of this document is as it doesn't appear to be a peer-reviewed academic paper. I'm not going to get into an argument with you about environmental science, risk, epidemiology, and assessment methodologies. I'm simply posting this as a counterpoint for others who might read this thread and use your post as an excuse to ignore a potential problem in their homes.

  • 4 years ago

    ^^this, plus, Banks and insurance companies don’t care if people believe radon is a myth or not. If they want a system installed, you have to install it.

  • 4 years ago

    @kudzu9 It is not an outlier among experts in the field whatsoever. The EPA adopted an idiotic model and basically public health organizations lined up behind them with no evidence to support their position. Science relies on evidence, not political weight. Radon levels in most homes being presented as dangerous is pure pseudoscience.


    "“Our results do not indicate increased risk of lung cancer from indoor radon.”" - Journal of the National Cancer Institute, 20 year study


    "As the radon level in the homes increases, the incidence of lung cancer falls" - Bernard Cohen, Univeristy of Pittsburgh, Tom W. Bonner Prize winner in Nuclear Physics


    "The EPA action level for reducing radon in homes is 14 times lower than the 'No Observed Adverse Effect Level' (NOAEL) The very low action level has been causing undue fear and unwarranted costs to many homeowners as well as a reduction in the market prices of their radon-stigmatized homes. It should also be noted that radon remediation significantly increases lung cancer mortality. To dispel the fear and eliminate this economic burden, the action level should be raised by a factor of at least seven, where the health benefit is near optimum." - Dr. Jerry Cuttler and Charles L. Sanders, Dose-Response, 2015


    "Don't fear Radon Concerns at Home, they're Overblown" - American Council on Science and Health


    "Thus, residential radon does not appear to cause lung cancer but rather to protect, in an exposure-level-dependent manner, from its induction by other agents (e.g., cigarette-smoke-related carcinogens)." - Bobby R. Scott, Lovelace Respiratory Research Institute, 2011





  • 4 years ago
    last modified: 4 years ago

    Super Lumen-

    I'm not going to get in an argument. You can cherry pick off the Internet all you want. I spent 30 years as an environmental scientist and know a bit about radon and the studies that went into the EPA rulemaking. When you start throwing out terms like “idiotic” and “pseudoscience,“ you lose all credibility.


    I’m tired of all the people who are into alternate facts, doubting mainstream, established science, or even conspiracy theories. Believe whatever you want. Hopefully, people who care about the health of their families will come to a different conclusion about dealing with potential radon risks.