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Mother leaf turning translucent...

6 years ago

Hi, I started leaf propagating a month ago and my largest healthiest echeveria leaf was giving off lots of nice thick roots and a little plant started to form. It's been about a week since I noticed the plant stopped growing and the mother leaf turned translucent. It's pretty dry where I am and I'm giving each leaf a spritz of water twice a day and the other ones seem to be doing well, I'm just wondering if the plant with the translucent mother will continue to grow? Will the mother continue to have nutrients to feed the baby plant or will it kill the baby by leaving it on? The plant is really tiny, I don't know if I should remove the leaf. THANKS!

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  • 6 years ago
    last modified: 6 years ago

    IMO, spritzing is not the best for succulents. And especially 2x/day. Succulents store lots of moisture in their leaves and stems. I propagated many plants from leaves, and do not water or spritz them for approx. 2 weeks, sometimes even longer. Some ppl recommend to spritz, but not so often.

    Leaves that are translucent are waterlogged. They will rot away. You may grow some plants, but why taking a chance? I leave mother leave on for as long as possible. It will eventually dry up and shrivell and literally detach itself. By then, plantlet has grown, sometimes quite a bit. I have some that stayed on for longer than 6mo - but many dry up faster.

    Your tiny plant may continue growing, but it is difficult to say for sure. It may depend on how 'strong' it is. Also, some plants are easy to propagate from leaves, others more difficult. What is the plant you are propagating? Can you post a photo pls?

    If my plant, I would remove that waterlogged leaf.

    Jessie L thanked rina_Ontario,Canada 5a
  • 6 years ago

    Thank u for replying Rina!

    Do you mean u only water once every 2 weeks? What is your watering regimen for propagation, please!? =)

    I used to only spritz once a day, but i had a few with roots that dried and shriveled up. I thought it was because it's fairly dry here.... so that's why i bumped it up to twice... my first time leaf propagating.

    I attached the photo of the mother plant, and the translucent mother leaf, I took a close look with a magnifying glass today and i dont think it'll make it... the roots look dried up... but please tell me what u think and i'll see if i can salvage it... =) thanks!




  • 6 years ago
    last modified: 6 years ago

    No, what I meant is that I start watering after 2 weeks or later after setting the leaves to root. If roots grow earlier I will water if needed. But often it isn't necessary, since there is plenty of moisture in the mother leaf (sorry for repeating). No roots - no water...If there are no roots, leaf can't 'drink' the water. It has plenty of moisture inside anyway, so no extra is needed. I do the same with the stem cuttings. If spritzing or watering, propagated portion (leaf or stem cutting) without any roots just sits in saturated soil, and often stars rotting. Your plant looks like Echeveria agavoides - I never tried to propagate that one from leaves. So I do not know how easy or difficult it is. Some leaves are very easy, like these xGraptoveria Fred Ives. They are just waiting to go into compost since I took them off about week ago - and they are growing roots and plantlets. I I wanted to keep them, I would just put them on top of the mix, and since every one of them has roots already (and few are growing plantlets too), I would sprinkle little bit of mix over them. At that point, I would start watering too:


    Here are few pics of some plants I started from leaves; none of them was watered or spritzed until roots grew. Some grew couple of plantlets from the same mother leaf, and most are still attached. These are now being watered as any other plants are:


    I can't tell you if your plantlet will make it or not. If it is strong and healthy, it probably will. If weak or damaged by rot, it won't. They should be kept in less sunlight until they grow roots.

    As you can see from my photos, I use very little, and sometimes no soil at all. So they are quite dry too. Succulents will recover from being under-watered much faster and easier than if being over-watered. But, as I mentioned before, leaves of few succulents will not propagate, regardless of what you do. Or they will with low success rate.

    Jessie L thanked rina_Ontario,Canada 5a
  • 6 years ago

    OK, got it! No water until roots form. =)


    Good to know the name of my plant now, thanks. Your graptoveria really wants to live, can't believe some even formed little plants in just a week!


    After roots form, do u water whenever it's dry? Like, should I spritz / water everyday to maintain a moist environment during development? or do I water and let it dry completely before watering again like my potted succulents? Or can i leave it dry for a fair amount of time between waterings because the mother leaf has alot of water?


    I have a few that just grew plant without any roots, is there a way to stimulate root growth? or will it just come with time?


    U told me about chicken grit last time. I looked all over in the city for #2 grit but the only type i can find so far is the #1, which is fairly small 1/16inch. do you use #1 or 2?

  • 6 years ago
    last modified: 6 years ago

    #1 is too small. Use #2 to make potting mix.

    Once roots grow, I start watering. I water when mix is dry - just as any succulent. As I mentioned, I do not spritz at all, at any time. Moist environment is not needed. If too moist constantly, rotting is encouraged.

    Everyone that tried to root leaves have same experience: some leaves will grow only roots, some will grow plantlets only, some will not grow either. But most will grow both. I do not expect 100% success rate (it happens sometimes). I do not know of any extra way to stimulate root growth if it is not happening. I do as I described. I do not think leaves get any "special" treatment in their natural habitat. They fall off, some will grow into new plants and others will not. We probably get higher amount of leaves to root because of extra care...but too much of it is not necessary. Try not to be a 'helicopter mom', lol. I know it is exciting to see new plants to grow. But giving them too much love (= water) hurts them. I just put them on or into mix, and pretty well ignore them for a while. It may be different with cuttings of other plants, some need to be enclosed in moist environment. Not succulent cuttings, leaves or stems.

  • 6 years ago

    hahaha, i definitely started off as a helicopter mom... i'm slowly backing off now... =P


    thanks rina, i appreciate your advice! i'll keep looking for #2 grit.

  • 6 years ago

    lol... ok, thanks Rina!

    I have another one that turned waterlogged translucent today... =( it's the one with leaves/plant and no roots. we'll see how that one turns out. it doesn't have roots, but i've been watering him, maybe that's why... i'll stop watering and see. keep my fingers crossed!

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