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Speed Queen TL AWN432SP not draining

6 years ago

Noticed a stagnant smell coming from the inside of the washer recently. I grabbed the agitator and moved it back and forth and there is a sloshing sound coming from under the inner drum...the inner drum is dry so it's not enough water to come up through the holes. I don't know how long this has been going on but I have noticed recently (a month or so?) that our gym clothes don't seem to be getting as clean as before. Figured our water chemistry or detergent changed but standing water makes just as much sense.


What can/should I do to determine the cause? Since some water in draining, could it be a leveling issue? Or partially clogged hose? Timer stopping the spin too early? I've changed pumps before (on a different washer) and am somewhat comfortable doing basic fixes. The unit was purchased in earlu 2016 so I'm not sure if we're still in the warranty period or not.


Thanks! It's been a while since I've been on this site...did all my washing machine research on here before my purchase and it's nice to see the frequent contributors are still active.

Comments (18)

  • 6 years ago
    last modified: 6 years ago

    IIRC, there was a 3 year warranty on SQ's "432" models.

    A stagnant smell can also be the result of the build-up of schmutz on the containment tub which can be the result of continually using too much or too little detergent, frequent use of fabric softeners, and doing mostly cold washes. I just mention this as a possibility and not as an accusation. If your family uses mostly or exclusively cold washes or uses a lot of fabric softener, or DIY soaps, you might see if a couple of tub cleaning cycles help with the odor (hottest water you can get, lots of bleach or tub cleaning product.) I know it is an article of faith for some folks that top loaders can't get moldy like front loaders, but it just ain't so. DaDoes and others here have posted photos of some pretty disgusting build-ups found in the containment tubs of top loaders they dissassembled..

    Have you checked the drain pump trap (a/k/a coin trap) and the drain pump for small items or rags that may be impeding the flow or impeding the pump? These are easily accessed by removing the SQ's front panel which, IIRC, just requires removing a couple of screws. There are youtube and other videos on how to do this.

    Also, if you haven't already done so, you could check/ask at the AutomaticWasher forum where washer enthusiasts, dealers, collectors, laundra-philes and wash-aholics regularly discuss these kinds of things.

  • 6 years ago

    Not yet, no...I will do that as soon as I can and maybe find my schematic or watch a video beforehand. I did recently wash a big load of cat hair covered fleece so maybe I clogged something up.


    Thanks for the advice...I'll pop over to the washer forum too!

  • 6 years ago

    The water-sloshing sound may not be what you think. Many washers have a (sealed) ring attached to the top of the inner drum that's partially filled with water or other liquid to function as a gyroscopic balancer during spin. Parts diagrams indicate your SQ has such a ring but I'm not familiar with SQ to confirm if contains balancing liquid.

    Speed Queen Balance Ring P/N 39837

  • 6 years ago
    last modified: 6 years ago

    Fleece with cat hair, eh? That was my intro to drain pump traps. My sympathies if that is the problem.

  • 6 years ago

    Ran a spin cycle to see if I could get any water out but no luck. Dadoes, will look into your idea as well. I can't say that I've ever heard the sloshing before but I've also never had a bad smell coming out of the machine.


    I pulled the front panel off and disconnected the pump inlet hose...no leaks but I'd say about a quart of water came out. Not sure if that's normal or not. I've not pulled any other hose yet (tub to pump, pump outlet). I actually have an appliance repair guy coming today to look at my GE Profile French door fridge and freezer that decided to stop working today. It's been a month of appliance failures here...A/C whip burned through from a power surge, generator leaked carbon monoxide into the house and now these.

  • 6 years ago

    No cold washes here...only do warm or hot. Detergent has almost exclusively been All Free & Clear, no fabric softener due to skin allergies in the house. I will try the tub cleaning but the appliance guy here actually services Speed Queens so I may actually be getting lucky for once.

  • 6 years ago

    All washers (and dishwashers) retain some water in the pump/sump/hoses. Pumps can't push 100% of it up and out the drain hose. I have no hands-on experience with SQ so can't say if ~a quart is normal or excessive.

  • 6 years ago

    Thanks, all. Our refrigerator compressor is shot so it looks like I need to buy a new fridge...compressor replacement from GE is probably cost prohibitive for a 12 year old unit.


    The guy looked at the washer and said the same as Dadoes...the amount of water in it seemed normal to him. He also said to not use liquid detergent since it leaves residue but I thought that was old-school thinking (he's been repairing appliances for +/- 40 years). He recommended a tub cleaning product (not a specific one) to see if that got rid of the smell.

  • 6 years ago

    Make sure you always leave the lid open when done washing to allow proper evaporation and drying out of the washer innards to prevent mold/mildew. Also, never leave a finished load of wash in the washer overnight or longer, this will also promote mold/mildew growth.

  • 6 years ago

    I typically close the lid due to cats but I did leave it open overnight and things are definitely better in there now. I've also "forgotten" loads in the washer but certainly don't make a habit of it. All this said, I think I'm going to do a thorough cleaning and see what happens.


    I'm also no longer thrilled with All F&C. Been using it for years but something has changed.

  • 6 years ago

    Regular use of chlorine bleach on a whites loads (bath linens, kitchen linens, socks, etc.) helps ward-off machine funk. Or run an empty cycle with bleach if you refuse to use it on clothes.

  • 6 years ago

    Thanks, dadoes...no issues using bleach on clothes but we're on a septic so I need to be careful with overuse of chlorine bleach. I've probably used it 5x in the past year or 2, which may help explain the funk.

  • 6 years ago

    We use All Free & Clear here also, haven't noticed a change as you're mentioning but my batch is likely 6+ months old from a sale at Lowes. What change in the detergent are you observing?

  • 6 years ago

    Thanks, Kevin. It seems as if I need more detergent to get the same level of cleaning, particularly for workout clothes. They are nearly immediately stinky again shortly after wearing and even before working out/sweating. I am going to try a washing machine cleaning cycle (vinegar and baking soda) to see if that helps. Other, non-synthetic (or non-workout) clothes don't seem affected.

  • 6 years ago

    It sounds like you are getting a build up of soap scum in both your washer and clothing which causes things to smell dirty even though they are "clean". I suggest you switch to a high quality powder detergent such as Tide. Powder detergents have water softening ingredients and some oxygen bleach which will help prevent the build up of that funk in your machine and laundry.

  • 6 years ago

    Synthetics are washed with warm water, so probably 80-90F if I had to guess. Water heater at 125F, Grove m ground water from the well is probably 60F this time of the year. I also have a water softener.


    Tried mixing in some oxy recently and that seemed to help a bit. I have regular Persil that I've avoided using due to potential allergies but I'm going to use that this weekend on the workout clothes.

  • 6 years ago
    last modified: 6 years ago

    I think I have the same washer as you. I have my warm cycle set to 120F. Before I was able to do that, (had to buy a new water heater 2 years ago) I don't know what my warm cycle temp was, but it was cooler. I find that odor you are speaking of is history with a higher warm temp cycle, plus a quality powder detergent. Tide powder, like littlegreeny mentions is used often here. All Free and Clear powder is also good, and supposed to be hypoallergenic. Tide makes a Free and Gentle powder. I soak our stinky loads like ci-lantro mentions. Does a world of good.

    Your thread is reminding me I am overdue for a cleaning cycle on my machine. I've use Glisten's Washer Magic formula in the past. I can't tell if it did much to clean as I didn't have washer odor, but it probably helped considerably for the future. Citric acid, which I suspect is what Glisten is, works too to dissolve the muck that has built up. I bought citric acid on amazon and throw that in foul laundry loads sometimes, along with detergent. It seems to help. Borax does too.

    I hope your situation improves soon.

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