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Porch steps and pathway help!!

6 years ago
last modified: 6 years ago

Where would you think the best place would be for the porch steps? I want cement ones with a pathway. We have a circle drive that is right in front in the house. We just built this house and have no clue where to begin on the steps and walkway! Please help









Comments (39)

  • 6 years ago

    The picture you posted seems to have some disconnects with the questions you have asked.

    1). Porch steps. In the picture, the porch appears to be on-grade with no steps needed.

    2). Circle driveway right in front of the house - I don’t see one. Unless you are referring to the dirt area in the foreground of picture #2?

    Kim Berger thanked littlebug zone 5 Missouri
  • 6 years ago
    last modified: 6 years ago

    Where will people park and walk to the door? Pretty house!

    Kim Berger thanked Olychick
  • 6 years ago

    Can you take a picture from further back so we can see the circular drive way?

    Kim Berger thanked emmarene9
  • 6 years ago

    If people will approach from head on between the two columns I’d make the path/steps as wide as the columns and then narrow down as it moves away from the house. The wider the path the more welcoming it looks plus it gives you a solid spot for a big planter in front of each column

    Kim Berger thanked Donald
  • 6 years ago

    Please see the new photos posted! sorry I guess my original post was misleading. The circular driveway actually goes all the way around the house. The house sits on a little hill so there Is a slope down from porch to dirt path driveway! please give me your suggestions. Thank you guys

  • 6 years ago
    last modified: 6 years ago

    Thanks for adding more pictures. The sidewalk should be placed where people will walk. Do you expect them to walk straight-on toward the front porch, not far from where the first picture was taken? People are going to take the path of least resistance to your door, hence the question above from olychick. If they park close to either side of your house, then they’ll take a short walk to the door.

    Unless, of course, you have unlimited funds and want a straight-on sidewalk regardless of whether it would be used.

  • PRO
    6 years ago

    It's difficult to see the small hill you are talking about in the photos posted. If you install steps they would almost need to be cut into the grade which might mean you would need cheek walls on each side of the stair to act as short retaining walls. If you do install a stair I would either center on your front door or center between the two brick columns.

  • 6 years ago

    Yes. We hardly ever use our front door and most of our visitors pull around to the back of the house anyways. But I would like to add something to the front to give it a little boost. I am not real sure if I should do steps the whole way across as wide as the porch or just steps in front of the front door side with pathway going down. Which one would you suggest? The front door is off center from the middle
    Of the porch so having a little trouble with this. Would like to have a little curb appeal to guest that actually would park in front and walk up the pathway to the front door. I am new at all of this so I hope this makes sense. Thanks a bunch

  • 6 years ago

    Norwood architects- yes I was thinking putting the steps centered in-between the brick columns just having a hard time picturing it and how it would make the house look overall when you pull up. They will deff have to be cut in because of the slope. Here is a better image that might help see the slope some. Thanks

  • 6 years ago

    If no one is going to walk up to the front door straight-on, I might do one step on the porch the width of the pillars. A sitting-on step kind of thing.

    Then make a nice sidewalk to the porch from the dirt drive where the very last picture was taken.

  • 6 years ago

    The path needs to actually go somewhere. I'd create a designated parking spot out front where it's obvious that your guests should park and have the path lead there.

    Do you need steps? If the slope isn't too great, then just build the path on the slope and have it meet up flush with your porch. You don't want steps if you don't need them. People with mobility issues will thank you.

  • 6 years ago

    Little big- I like that idea. Should the sidewalk be in the middle like centered between the pillars and steps or sidewalk in line with door?

  • 6 years ago

    I love this! This is what i was wanting... thank you. So much easier to picture this now

  • PRO
    6 years ago
    last modified: 6 years ago

    I tried to read your mind as best I could :-)

    If it were me, I think I'd make a couple of parking spaces so that the drive could be used even when cars are parked.

    Kim Berger thanked Yardvaark
  • 6 years ago

    You did good. Where would I do that though? Not sure where to put them and how it would look

  • PRO
    6 years ago
    last modified: 6 years ago

    Parking could go at the inside OR outside of the drive. It would depend on how much room you have at these places, your desires, and the actual layout ... all reconciled together. I'm just showing schematic possibilities. I'm going to guess that if there was enough space, you'd pick the inside, as is less costly and shorter walk to house.

    (Alternatively, it could be parallel parking style.)

  • 6 years ago

    I am not real keen on designating parking in the front because we are out in the country and our mailman is usually the only one that drops stuff on the front porch. Fed x and ups follow the path to around the house. Thinking of leaving the drive way alone just adding the steps like shown and sidewalk down. What do u think? Thanks

  • 6 years ago
    last modified: 6 years ago

    Really need to make all of these additions including a destination (the parking) or the whole thing appears to have no purpose. The original problem being that you built a prominent public entrance feature on one side of the house only to then have everybody come in the other side.

    Even if in actuality the mail carrier will be the only one coming up the new path most of the time having at least one parking spot out there will give them an opportunity to pull off to the side.

  • 6 years ago
    last modified: 6 years ago

    I like the idea of a step or two and that’s it. (As I said way up thread.) Thanks yardvaark for producing the visual.

    But why have a sidewalk going nowhere? Nobody’s going to park out there as the parking pattern at your house has already been established elsewhere by your visitors and service people.

  • 6 years ago

    Little bug- that is true... it’s mainly for the rare occasion visitor and the look it will give the house. So I’m not sure what to do. It deff needs something. Right now it looks like a house plopped down in the middle of a pasture. (Not really) but I feel it’s not complete without steps or sidewalk

  • PRO
    6 years ago

    At minimum a sidewalk would connect to the drive. If you don't want dedicated parking, then either the drive will be blocked when a visitor comes, or they could pull off the drive onto the lawn. That's what happens at a lot of rural places. It's not as nice or as finished looking, but it works OK as long as not raining or such. Honestly, though, I can't imagine why dedicating parking, especially when there's plenty of space, would be something perceived as a negative. Seems odd to have a grand circle of drive ... but not even a parking space for that occasional guest or two. Basically, you are not giving a reason for your conclusions, but only saying that you have them and that things function in a basic way and everyone is used to it. That's fine. But it still seems incomplete to those who are used to seeing completeness. :-)

  • 6 years ago

    If you had a designated parking spot in front, then people would use it. The reason people drive around to the back is because that's where the parking is. Your logic is backwards. It might take a little adjustment to get prior visitors to switch over, but that's not a big deal.

    Having a path to nowhere would look weird.

    Are you planning on making your driveway more defined or just leaving it as a dirt path?

  • 6 years ago

    The dirt drive will eventually be gravel and small/crushed white rock over the top of the regular grade gravel. I think designating a place or two to park in front will be the best bet if I want to achieve the overall goal. Thank you guys

  • 6 years ago

    Any other layouts of parking in front are more than welcome. I love my big yard and don’t want to get rid of too much grass. Thanks

  • PRO
    6 years ago
    last modified: 6 years ago

    200 square feet less grass isn't going to make much of a dent in a yard that is thousands of square feet of grass.

    There would not be a lot of options for front yard parking variety, other than the previously mentioned "parallel" parking, instead of head-in parking. It wouldn't be good to put it too far away ... or too far out of line with the entrance walk and steps. And then there are trees stretching along the drive. The opening of the trees seems to be the straightforward, most obvious place to put parking.

    (In case there's any confusion, I wasn't suggesting parking at both sides of the drive. I was only drawing it at both sides to help the envisioning process.)

    Even if you have a gravel drive, the house is going to look a lot better if the steps, landing and walk are some type of hard masonry. The closer to the house the hardscape is, the more important it is to have an upgraded material.

  • 6 years ago
    last modified: 6 years ago

    White rock tends to discolor. It also seems like a white driveway might appear quite alien or otherwise out of context in that setting.

  • 6 years ago
    last modified: 6 years ago

    Rather than a stark hard line of concrete, another option could be a path with very large stepping stones. If you used stone that is local to your area, it would look more natural. Then you could incorporate the same colors/stone in your parking area and then gradually have the pavers change to gravel and then have all gravel of similar color on the entire drive. you could also choose stone to match your house.

    I know you wanted concrete steps, but you could also use very large pavers/stepping stones for your front steps. It would give your entryway a "path through the forest" look and if you had some old-fashioned (looking) lanterns on your porch, that would give your entry a welcoming feeling.

    Or, you could have stamped concrete that is made to look like stone.

  • 6 years ago
    last modified: 6 years ago

    It would give your entryway a "path through the forest" look

    Except the house is not particularly rustic looking in general - and the specific architectural feature that the path would be leading up to is classical in tone, as though the house was intended to emulate a mansion.

  • 6 years ago

    Further to Yardvark's plan; note how the sidewalk has curves in it. One walks a straight line, but the curves add interest. It's more expensive, but worth it. For parking, I would just widen out the driveway, so they can parallel park. Otherwise It will make your home look too commercial.

  • 6 years ago

    Jill k-I agree

  • 6 years ago
    last modified: 6 years ago

    It will make your home look too commercial

    The large formal entry feature already makes the house look like a hotel or lodge - that ship has sailed.

  • 6 years ago

    I like both ideas. It sure which one we will go
    With. Not an easy decision in my opinon

  • 6 years ago

    Can you add a google map Ariel view of the house and surrounding roads?

  • 6 years ago

    I would but google map is not up to date and this house was just built and google map is showing my brother in laws house next door. Our driveway is off a paved country road with medium travel. There isn’t any roads behind us and we are not in a subdivision if that helps any

  • 6 years ago
    last modified: 6 years ago

    I agree with shellydeebutler. You’re out in the country so why spend the money to put in a concrete path. Stepping stones or large paver stones would be a much softer look and more in keeping with the country feel.

  • 6 years ago

    Yes, your walkway should connect the guest parking area to the front door. One step up to the covered front porch should be sufficient. The walkway should be slightly higher than the soil to avoid having guests walking on dirt or mud. I like to offer three spots off the driveway for guest parking. When they leave, they back out of the parking spot and have a clear path back out to the road. Blacktop is less expensive than concrete for a long country driveway and parking area. Allow plenty of space for turning cars or smaller delivery trucks around in front of the garage, or have a circular drive.

  • 6 years ago

    In consideration of your guests...entering the porch from the sides would be much more convenient...not such a long walk...and the walks would be on flat ground...it looks like on both sides of the house there is already room for parking...you could add a pretty railing or bench and some big flower pots ....between the columns..and leave the front yard and circular drive as is...preserving the relaxed country setting look...

  • PRO
    6 years ago

    Straight up middle

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