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House Resale priority help

5 years ago

Hello! We're thinking about moving, but our house was built in 1989 and it's time for some updates. If we stay, obviously, we'll update it the way we want it, but if we leave, we have a dilemma. What, if anything do we do before we list? We live in a desirable, established neighborhood with a wide range of properties. The oldest houses are from about the 1920s, and the newest ones are about 2018. The prices range from about $80k - $400k+ (up to probably $600k) depending on house size, lot size and location, age and finish of home. Our house is about 2500sf, 4 bedroom (3 upstairs + 1st floor master addition), 4.5 bathroom, 2c garage, 0.57ac lot. That is above average for sf size and lot size, but smaller sf and lot size than the highest priced homes. Some of the biggest issues with the house include:


- No central AC, new furnace installed in 2014

- First floor has great room (kitchen, EIC, family), dining room, foyer, living room, each with different flooring, all showing age. Roll vinyl is peeling, tiles are cracking, carpet is dirty. Floor squeaks in places. (For us with kids, was thinking vinyl plank throughout, but hardwood/engineered hardwood might be better for resale?) Drywall tape in ceiling is starting to crack, but it's a swirled ceiling.

- Kitchen cabinets are only laminate case. Most in good shape, but with some exception (sink cabinet is destroyed following a faucet failure). Faces in good shape, but honey oak. Not much good pantry storage.

- bathrooms could all use some updating, but could probably get away with cosmetic only in most of them

- Upstairs Master bathroom is the worst design ever. It's a nice wide open space with a walk in closet, but it only has a 32" shower stall and 48" single vanity. It is located above kitchen. I have a great idea for how to redesign the space, but it would involve moving the shower and toilet to the wall backed up against the other 2nd floor bathroom.

- Basement used to be 1/2 finished with a large (again, poorly laid out) bathroom w/shower, but we had a big water infiltration a while back. Water taken care of now, but we lost the carpet, so we just have a 12x15ish chunk of carpet from Lowe's rolled out right now. Husband uses it as a man cave, but we have (potential) plans to fix it up and expand the finished section.


So the question is, if we do decide to sell, what should we prioritize? Where can we get the biggest return? Any thoughts or suggestions?

Comments (4)

  • 5 years ago

    The best thing you can do is talk to at least 3 well known local realtors and have them do an assessment for what you could list it for today AS IS. Then see what those numbers are and how that factors into wether you stay or go.

  • 5 years ago

    I agree with the above comment. You need more info.


    I've done a complete interior updating like you are thinking about before. It's basically what flippers do. I did all my own work except for carpeting. I am not a pro but have a lot of past experience. Here is the breakdown of the one that mostly resembles yours:


    Best guess gross value of home "as is" - $220-$230k according to my research and my agents expertise.

    Cost of materials for complete update (all labor my own except carpet installation) $24k

    Net sale proceeds after real estate commission and closing costs - $260k.


    The house sold in 1 day. There were multiple offers. It doesnt appear I made that much money but that is a matter of perspective. By my reckoning my 24k investment returned 40k. How do you value "sold in one day?"


    If I had hired out all the labor the numbers wouldn't have worked.



  • 5 years ago

    Sort of similar situation for us.

    Our house was built in 1952, unusual house, called a 'California Ranch' by the Realtors. Contemporary for the period. We bought in in 71 and updated the kitchen, paint, etc. Nothing big.

    Master bath was also tiny. Small shower, single sink. House had 3 full baths and 2 1/2 baths.

    We lived there for 40 yrs. Had done many improvements over the years but when we decided to sell, we knew we had to do some updates.

    We had a contractor we used for years. He had a good eye and we worked together to do some small updates which would look good. The biggest problems were the old bathrooms but he made suggestions and I shopped for items to add and he'd install.


    One bathroom had a green tub. I called a bathtub refinisher who made the tub white. Looked perfect. Replaced the green toilet with white (this was in the finished basement which was above ground and had a bed/bath. I hit stone places for remnants of granite and marble. Looked for floor models for vanities. Bought them, the granite and marble was fantastic because they were on the floor models so already cut.


    Contractor painted the oak cabinets in kitchen white. I ordered new hardware on line. Painted our fireplace brick, white.


    Yes, it cost alot, but not nearly what it would have been to gut all those bathrooms. I also replaced any ceiling fixtures with inexpensive Lowes lights. House looked great, neat, clean and updated enough. We had beautiful oak floors which I had refinished and those floors really sold the house.


    We got multiple offers and sold for $50,000 more than list.


    Jane

  • 5 years ago

    Did I understand it correctly that there is a 1st floor master. Does it have a good size shower and does it work well. If so it is not likely that you'll see much money in improving the second floor master. It would either be used by a kid or temporarily by parents with young children who would move downstairs later. The only case where I can see it matter more if the buyer needs two masters where one would be for them and the other for aging parents.

    Anything that is a defect should be fixed - drywall tape, squeaks, messed up flooring, damaged sink cabinet etc. Fixing it may not give you much return for the cost to fix, but if not fixed you will loose money as buyers will deduct from your price to fix it and they will always estimate high to deduct as they don't want to be out money to fix it.

    Re-doing the kitchen and flooring may or may not give you a good return. This really depends on the area you are in and this is where talking to several realtors would be beneficial about what you do.

    For example the kitchen could be as simple as replacing counters, backsplash, and the damaged cabinet, to an in between of painting the cabinets and maybe replace an upper and lower cabinet with a pantry cabinet or go full out with tearing it all out and replacing everything. The latter is not likely to net much in return unless you're in a really hot market, but it also depends on what you're able to do yourself vs. what the costs would be for someone to do it. However the latter would likely be preferable if you wanted to stay.

    Having the same flooring everywhere is generally a plus vs. it being all chopped up. I think vinyl or engineered wood would be ok with most buyers in most of the US, but I think there are a few areas where wood is expected. Again realtors could help with that.

    Basement I wouldn't do anything to and leave it unfinished and remove the "floating carpet" unless you're in an area where a finished basement counts as full square footage for bank appraisal purposes. Then depending on costs it might be worth it. However if it is partially finished and it clearly shows something has been repaired and not fixed then it sort of falls into the fix it category.


    So really the best idea would be to get estimates for fixing things, talk to realtors, and do what you need to do to decide if you would be staying or not.


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