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Old cypress deck needs repair. Trex? YellaWood? Ideas?

5 years ago

Our old waterfront home was built over 40 years ago, and made entirely of cypress. Cypress siding, trim, decking, even the deck wall is cypress clad. The only reputable cypress dealer I can find (two states away from me) says that cypress decking boards would never hold up now – – something about it wouldn’t be old growth, or it would have too many knots in it. I can’t quite recall, but he said it just wasn’t possible to get what we have.

So I looked into going with something like Trex. But the old deck is on 24“ joists, and Trex requires 16”. My contractor says all the pressure-treated yellow pine he can get is junk nowadays, and will begin to fail in 5-10 years. He complains that old fashioned CCA is no longer made, whatever that is, and that we might need to order something exotic.

Our local Trex dealer suggested YellaWood, which he says is superior to regular yellow pine. Our contractor says he is aware of it, but has never used it. It also isn’t easily available in our rural, mountainous area. We pulled a couple of boards up early in the summer, and the joists look good. We can double up the joists and go back to the idea of Trex, but it will look messy from underneath, where it covers a substantial ground level patio. And I honestly don’t love the idea of pairing a manmade material with such an organic looking home.

I would appreciate any advice on any of these products. And I would especially appreciate any other ideas for what we might use. I don’t want to say money is not an object, but I don’t want to waste it. I just want a nice wooden deck floor similar to what I have now. Many thanks.

Comments (17)

  • 5 years ago

    Have you considered cedar?

  • 5 years ago

    No, is it hard to obtain? It should be a close match to cypress, I’d guess. Is it a good option, and long lasting? Thanks!

  • PRO
    5 years ago

    Ipe is the best natural wood decking you can get, and is comparable in cost to composites. Extremely strong and durable, guaranteed to last up to 75 years. If you use 5/4x6 boards, you can use your existing 24" joist spacing. It's also low-maintenance; you just have to oil it once a year or so to preserve the color, or you can just let it turn gray and never have to touch it.


    Chic California Decks & Patios · More Info


    Why Fit In When You Were Born to Stand Out? Advantage Ipe™ · More Info


    If you let it turn gray:


    Buffalo, NY - Ship Canal Gray Ipe · More Info


    You can learn more here: https://www.advantagelumber.com/decking2.htm

  • 5 years ago
    last modified: 5 years ago

    Ipe! Thank you. That is the exotic that was mentioned to me. Couldn’t recall the name. I wonder if I can get it around here. Also — from your webpage, it looks like you CAN supply cypress decking???

  • PRO
    5 years ago

    If you can't get it locally, you can order from us online. We're currently offering free shipping on orders over $2500: https://buy.advantagelumber.com/collections/ipe-decking

  • 5 years ago

    Black locust is superior to Ipe in a lot of ways. We just had our front porch installed with Black Locust from Black Locust Lumber. You can look at their web site and see how many projects they have completed world wide ! I will link them below. Please get some info before you decided on Ipe. Stubbie and Marie run an amazing company and source their eco friendly wood from all over the world in a sustainable manner Our boards are 12ft long without one single blemish.https://www.blacklocustlumber.com/

  • 5 years ago

    Other direction


  • 5 years ago

    We used thermally modified ash to replace the floor of a large porch in a 100+ year old house.


    https://www.bingamanlumber.com/services/thermal-modifcation.html


    If you are interested, I can take pictures.

  • 5 years ago

    Wow, so many good options I never knew existed.

    Trail runner — gorgeous! — can that be stained? We need something the color of 40 year old cypress. Ha ha.

    penfire, I don’t think ash will work, but I’d love to see pics of you have them handy.

    AdvantageLumber, your minimum will not be a problem here. Looks like we are not too far from your NC location. Can we pick up cypress or ipe there?

    i seriously thank you all.

  • 5 years ago

    The ash is very dark so if you are looking to compliment instead of match the cypress.

  • 5 years ago

    I’ll take a picture tomorrow

  • 5 years ago
    last modified: 5 years ago

    The black locust can be stained using a Sikkins product. It comes un-oiled It will age to grey like your cypress if you look on their website you will see at the Apple Cupertino offices as well as boardwalks the world over that they have supplied the wood for. But if you don't want to wait Sikkins makes a lovely grey. c ps the company is headquartered in Pennsylvania so not far from you. It only took a few days for shipping but it takes 6 weeks after you order to then ship.


  • 5 years ago

    The house has been kept a brown color with hints of gold, especially where it gets less sun. Like Cuban tobacco before it gets rolled. The original owner/architect meant it to go gray, I think, then changed his mind and had it treated or stained with something around 2016. I guess I should ask him what that was . . .

  • PRO
    5 years ago

    "Looks like we are not too far from your NC location. Can we pick up cypress or ipe there?"


    Yes, local pickup is an option. I'd advise calling that location directly to place your order if that's what you want to do.

  • 5 years ago

    @MizLizzie Sikkins also makes a beautiful un colored finish that imparts a beautiful golden color to the wood. We just used it on our 110 yr old front door . You could try some samples.

  • 4 years ago
    last modified: 4 years ago

    I hope you did NOT use Yellawood.


    8 years in and my Yellawood substructure (yes, pressure treated) is failing. Black mold and rot, causing stainless screws to back out/not bite. Yellawood team saying not their problem, but I've NEVER seen PT wood fail like this 4 feet off the ground with ventilation. 18 x 36 deck....