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east coast oceanfront windows

5 years ago

I see people don’t run to write a review when they are satisfied so I’m hoping to encourage a reader and would love to hear from the pros (wow)

I’m building a home on the water and wonder about salt air and finishes. I’m leaning towards fiberglass / fiberglass clad.
Also, can anyone speak of experience with Marvin elevate, Kolbe, Loeren.

The Architect also specd a Nana wall, the cost was 35k for the hurricane resistant. Anyone with experience on the Nana or comparable 18’ opening?

Comments (21)

  • 5 years ago
    last modified: 5 years ago

    The east coast is fairly long and wind issues vary a lot so being more specific might be helpful.

    In general, the east coast is way too humid to open up a Nana wall. And when it isn't, it is often too windy.

    I would be surprised if it was only $35k to do the wall. I could see that being the cost of the wall but in my area, the frame would have to be steel likely and then I would want one heck of a hurricane shutter on top which would be another $5k at least.

    We have fiberglass. The only issue was someone cheaped out and didn't do stainless on the casement hardware. Lasted 4 years I think. The word is that typically stainless lasts 10 and regular lasts 5. These were on the back side, not ocean. We have basic single hung on the ocean side and there is nothing to rust. Vinyl certainly gets brittle but most still function correctly after 9 years.

    We have Viwinco which is the budget choice.

    For our great room wall, we did fixed 6x6 flanked by 3x6 with transom type above.

    Whatever you do, keep in mind that shade from the outside is impossible (depending on actual location). Wearing sunglasses inside is a bizarre experience. Water and sand are very reflective.

  • 5 years ago

    Thanks David, New York to be more specific. We did just have the steel reconfigured for the Nana. The house does sit on the sunset side so yeah we will be exploring a sunshade for the terrace. My thought is casement mechanisms may not hold up well to the wind and therefore decided on double hung throughout.

  • 5 years ago

    So wind not nearly the issue we have in NC. Casements actually do fine in the wind - not like you leave them open in a storm.

    Are you doing impact windows? That would seem a bit unnecessary in NY but not unreasonable either.

  • 5 years ago
    last modified: 5 years ago

    Must be Long Island if on the ocean and impact rated would definitely be required. Marvin, Kolbe and or Loewen are all fine choices. I have sold prior and now know dealer's for all the above. No issues with casements here on Long Island with the wind as long as you do not leave them wide open in a storm. If you do get casements or even for patio door be sure an get the marine hardware package.

  • 5 years ago

    Without checking code, and having grown up in LI, hurricanes are really not common place.

    Sure - Sandy hit the NE hard but generally the storms fizzle out before hitting there - particularly by the north shore.

    Lets not go around saying that LI is like Miami or NC for that matter. Last I checked the maps, it was down to 110 MPH code by LI vs 130/140 near me and 160 in Miami. That is a big difference.

  • 5 years ago

    No I agree David but LI is 130 mph Large Missile anywhere within a mile of the ocean and or sound. That is the code and that is what is being used for all new construction.

  • 5 years ago

    If you want another quote for large sliders/folding doors, check out Euro-wall. I have only heard good feedback on them. They should come in lower than Nana wall.

    https://www.euro-wall.com/

  • 5 years ago

    Thank you all for your input. In speaking with my window dealer today he informed me that the Marvin elevate which is the line that I was leaning towards does not offer arched windows that my architect Specd. I was told that the signature series does but it’s an aluminum frame and I’m not sure that will hold up to the coastal salty air as fiberglass. He’s recommending I look at Sierra pacific or Lincoln. Anyone have experiences with any of these brands?

  • 5 years ago
    last modified: 5 years ago

    Ask about the marine finish for the Ultimates. You definitely do not want to use Sierra Pacific and hell no on Leaky Lincolns.

  • PRO
    5 years ago

    Call Doug at D.A. Ramsey, LLC, but don't embarrass me if you're a price shopper please. 561-702-4064.

  • 5 years ago

    Totally overwhelmed with window shopping.
    Hearing a lot about leaky Lincoln’s and stay away from vinyl on the ocean. Marvin elevate won’t make the arched windows the architect specd. Now I’m considering the Andersen A series. Some good advise here so far so tell me... should it be Andersen A casement. Any advice Or other suggestions? How does Andersen A compare to Marvin Signature in price and quality?

  • 5 years ago

    If you are thinking Andersen the E series (Eagle) would be the comparison window. Just be sure to specify the 2605 finish.

  • PRO
    5 years ago

    I don’t understand the advise to stay clear of vinyl on the ocean? It does very well against salt compared to aluminum and the challenge of rot that is a much bigger problem in a coastal environment. We have been distributing vinyl into Bermuda for the last 20 years and it is holding up quite well. PGT started manufacturing vinyl in Florida about 15 years ago and that has become a popular choice on the ocean..

  • 5 years ago

    Here is another option

    https://cgiwindows.com/


  • PRO
    5 years ago

    CGI products are all non-thermally broken aluminum so not the best framing choice for Long Island NY. PGT the parent company of CGI has a vinyl impact line the would be a better choice.

  • 5 years ago

    I am not certain PGT Windows are even available on the Northeast. There are plenty of quality options in the NY area.

  • 5 years ago

    Thank you for your input.
    I went into the showroom to see the marvin and Andersen for myself and feel and see the differences. Since aluminum and wood are out due to salt air I decided on the Andersen A series. I chose Andersen because of ability for custom shapes and not the vinyl 400 series because of the imperfection at the seams of the vinyl. I did ask to quote the coastal hardware with my windows. How the price won’t keep me searching for another choice.

  • PRO
    5 years ago

    Yes you can get PGT on the Northeast. We are PGT’s furthest north delivery point on the East Coast in New Jersey and we distribute from here. We just supplied a large multi unit project in Bayshore Long Island with WindGuard PVC impact product.

  • 5 years ago

    I stand corrected. I will keep that in the back of my head Uneeda, I work commercial in Hauppauge buy every now and then I need residential suppliers.

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