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Is it dying? Please help

5 years ago

Whether I give it no light or indirect light the result is the same. Every new leaf grown shrivels and looks burnt with in approximately 24 hours of it sprouting. picture for reference


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  • 5 years ago

    other than light.. tell us everything about it..


    what is it.. is it a tree.. why is it in the house .. how do you water.. what media in pot.. how do you water .. what kind of light... did you repot it ...


    where are you .. big city name... furnace???


    pic of the whole plant ...


    welcome to the forums... the more you tell us.. the better we can guess



    ken

  • 5 years ago

    It is Kwazan Cherry. I potted it last week. I have not fertilized it. I give it mostly indirect sunlight on stormy days I have a full range grow light still in direct light. I live in Nampa Idaho, I have an electric furnace the vent is on the other side of the room I watered 1 time because I read kwazan only needs 1-2 deep waterings a week, I did not water deep because of it being freshly potted. I am unsure of what pot media is? For the soil I used a clay/dirt mixture it does drain well

  • 5 years ago

    Why is it inside? Your weather is perfectly accommodating to having this be outside or even planted out in the ground. It's not a houseplant and is not benefitting from being kept indoors in a too warm, too dry and too dark a growing situation.

  • 5 years ago
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    1-2 deep waterings a week

    Chances are great they were talking about a plant growing outdoors in the ground and what it might need during a summer dry spell. With in particular the inclusion of the word "deep" pretty likely to be demonstrating that an in the ground situation was what was being discussed.

    Otherwise such directions are only generalizations with what specific routine may be required - both with plants in pots and those in the ground - in any given time and place depending on site condition variables including soil texture and atmospheric conditions such as humidity and precipitation.

  • 5 years ago

    If it's been too wet, it can look the same as if it has been too dry.

    Can you take a small utensil and check moisture conditions in the pot soil?

  • 5 years ago

    soil is mother earth ... media is what is in a pot ... and dirt is what is all over you after you play in either of them ...


    did you moisten the media before shoving it in the pot???


    if not.. its starving for water ...


    if frost or freeze is still possible outside.. then a leafed plant can not go out yet.. but it might still be better off in the garage ...


    its a tree.. not a houseplant.. it will struggle mighty indoors.. unless you are an expert at indoor growing ...


    water a plant when it needs water.. insert finger and find out.. no one can tell you how to water your plant.. in your house or garden .. with you other cultural variables ...


    if you find its bone dry down at root level.. dump it all out.. moisten the the media.. and then repot it.. water to firm it in.. and then dont water again until it needs it ... i dont like to restress newly arrived and repotted plants.. but you may never wet it properly from the top ...


    and get it outside asap... but harden it off properly ... ask if you dont know what that means ...



    its stressed.. not hungry.. fert is not a response to stress .... ever....



    ken



  • 5 years ago
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    ken,

    A clay/dirt mixture is NOT media, even if it's in a pot.

    Even sandy soil when used as container mix, stays too wet and the plants suffer.

    Most likely the roots are being suffocated by moisture.

  • 5 years ago

    "Most likely the roots are being suffocated by moisture."

    And lack of oxygen, which would occur using very finely textured ingredients like clay/dirt (aka garden soil) in a container.

  • 5 years ago

    I don’t know how to exactly word what it was but it’s not fine clay they’re chucks with pebbles and soil. If that is the cause should I repot it? And what could go wrong while I’m doing that?

  • 5 years ago

    Is there a reason why you cannot plant it in the ground? That's where it would be happiest and grow best.

    If you intend to grow it in a container for any length of time, then yes, it needs to be repotted. And you need to use a proper soil-less mix potting soil, not any kind of garden soil or clay or sand or compost.

  • 5 years ago

    I am very new to this as well, if you all couldn’t tell. It is inside because in Idaho (when not summer) it’s every season every day to put it simply. The weather changes are dramatic here. When I made my first comment this morning there was frost on the windows now a few hours later it’s mid summer temperatures. I did wet the soil before planting but maybe not enough what would be a nice of enough? I misted it after reading it needed to be “close to moist”.

    Image of what the seller told me to pot it in, and gave me free of charge because of how “well these trees do in this soil”

  • 5 years ago

    Here is a picture of the entire tree

  • 5 years ago

    I was going to use regular soil but was told this was WAY better for this kind of tree this is what they grow in etc etc I’m beginning to think the guy just wanted me to buy it and get rid of unsellable product. Unfortunately no I can’t plant it in the ground

  • 5 years ago
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    OK, that's a perfectly decent soil-less mix for containers (and not exactly what you described :-)). But I would still go ahead and plant it out in the garden as soon as you can. The tree won't mind those temps at all as long as you introduce it to outdoor living gradually, like over a week or two.

    ETA: We were typing at the same time :-) This is not a tree that is going to do well for you in a container, sorry. It will simply outgrow that size container in a matter of months and you will need to keep moving it up to larger and larger sizes. There will also be the ongoing maintenance chores of almost daily watering in summer, routine fertilization, periodic root pruning and replacing/refreshing the potting media every few season if not up-potting.

  • 5 years ago

    Is it worth mentioning that all of those leaves were VERY small buds when I got it and with in 32ish hours had grown to what they are now but have died a little more every day

  • 5 years ago

    Ok. Thank you for all the help. And ya I figured I should post a picture of it since I have no idea how to describe these things. This is my first time growing something

  • 5 years ago

    For your first time growing something, pick something that can planted in the ground. Or if not that, an easy-peasy houseplant. Attempting to grow a full size tree in a container is a daunting task for a beginning gardener :-)

  • 5 years ago

    And don't fertilize it at all. The tree is too small and under stress right now, fertilizer of any strength could possibly make it worse. Just regular water for now.

    Once you get it healthy and growing again, a weak mixture of a wide spectrum soluble fertilizer will benefit it the best. Mostly spring and early summer.

    And don't fertilize after mid July and no extended release fertilizers either. Late fertilization can cause the tree to not harden off in the Fall and the tree needs to do that to survive the winter.

    Hope you have success! :-)

  • 5 years ago

    Oh Erik, and if you leave it in the pot (that's a good media you have there) water so the water flows all the way through and comes out the pots drain holes (there are drain holes, right?). That way you're assured of a thorough watering. You really can't over water with media like that but once every few days should be sufficient.

  • 5 years ago

    Does it have scale?

  • 5 years ago

    No, those are lenticels.

  • 5 years ago

    Oh, ken.

    Sorry, I wasn't trying to thump ya. :-)

    I thought you were referring to my statement just before your comment. Now I see you were explaining things to the OA.

  • 5 years ago

    Should I remove the dead parts?

  • 5 years ago

    no, best just to wait. The dead stuff should just dry up on it's own and you wouldn't want to damage a good part accidentally by messing with it.

  • 5 years ago
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    The speed with which the buds opened was probably due to its being kept too warm. It's not a good sign for a bone hardy tree. Your best chance for it to live is to gradually get it used to being outside, even if you can’t plant it in the ground. It needs lower temperatures and more light. Put it out in a shady spot during the day and bring it in at night. Do this for a week or so and then just leave it out. If you can’t put it outside give up and choose a different plant.

    Is this actually a rooted plant or is it a cutting?