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Is it over or underwatered????

5 years ago

I have a sedum corynephyllum and I can't tell if I've overwatered it or underwatered it. I do need to repot... I was just waiting until it gets a little sunnier in the window!
I came in and noticed two shrively looking leaves on the dirt. They kind of look translucent, but dark and dead. There are yellowing leaves near the bottom edge of each branch, some are shriveling, some are not. The new branch of leaves has one shriveled green leaf.
The dirt IS currently dry.
My issue is that while it's all signs of underwatering, the leaves that have dropped are super mushy and translucent and dark.... Indicating overwatering.
I don't know how to include photos... on mobile I don't see any buttons to add attachments or take a photo.

Comments (11)

  • 5 years ago






  • 5 years ago

    Can you slip it out the pot and feel the bottom of the rootball? It could be dry on top but muddy on the bottom if the old potting mix doesn't drain well anymore, or the bottom part is just roots with no potting medium left.

  • 5 years ago

    the twist tie is strangling the trunk where it is attached ... and all the damage appears just above that..


    noe the new growth from the bottom looks fine


    tie it up with something else .. not metal ...


    ken

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    Agree with ken about the wire...healthy plant should be able to self-support. Loosen-up the wire, or better - use something else...

    Those fallen leaves look water-logged. That suggests overwatering or water-retaining soil. Do as Jo-Jo said. And plant looks etiolated - it probably needs more light. I know this plant has trunks, but etiolation is between sets of leaves - at least that is what I see in your photos. Bending trunks could be weak from too much water and not enough light.

  • 5 years ago

    I do have the problem that I live in Canada and don't get enough sun over the winter. It is currently spring and has rained non stop for the past 2 weeks, but here is hoping for some better weather shortly.


    I did do what Jojo suggested, and noticed that the dirt was just completely dry all the way through. Since the dirt just fell off the roots I decided to repot it anyways, instead of "repotting" back into the original pot. I gave it a good water until it drained through, and I will hope for the best from there. I know now that I need to water more thoroughly in the future with this pot.


    Unfortunately in this process I did lose some leaves at the bottom. I'll try to propogate them I guess.


    Someone said that the branches are bending? They only travel in the direction of the sun (when it's out), but they aren't physically bendy. That bottom half is hard, and the outside of the trunk has developed a bark (as it should). Only the top two inches or so of each trunk has a green (new) truck, which is pretty healthy. I've been rotating it constantly so that it gets sun on all sides, which is why it kind of looks a little windy. The twist tie wasn't tight, it was just to help lead it in an upward direction while it was growing there. I did put it back on after repotting because otherwise the whole branch falls to the side (not all the way down, just because of its shape and where the branch is heavy). Again it is not tight, the branch is just leaning on it (because it has a natural bend from reaching for the sun).


    You can tell that when I got it it also wasn't doing too well, which is why there are a lack of leaves at the bottom (I think this is where you were referring to in your post). That was actually from not having enough sun (even in the summer) 2 years ago. I was able to put it in a good spot over the summer and he ended up growing nicely after that. This "leaf dropping" right now only just started today with those bottom leaves. I've been extremely busy and not visited the plant room so my husband has been watching them. I am guessing the yellow leaves only started a few days ago. The rest of the leaves are healthy, green, and hard right up to the top. It is a clear sign of either over watering or underwatering since nothing else has changed over the past year and it's been fine.



    Hopefully I will find a new house shortly that has plenty of natural light for these guys! Until then this guy might have to move back to its "nursery" from before (i.e. the public stairwell that has a large window and is warmer than the rest of the apartments).


    It looks like today the sun is actually coming out! This is a good sign. :)


    Thanks for the replies. I'll keep you updated if anything changes.

  • 5 years ago

    I also live in Canada, and even many others that don' have a same problem - not enough sunlight...That's what grow lights are for. I have few hundred succulents and wouldn't be able to grow them reasonably well without supplemental lights...Rotating the plant is good idea, and should not cause plant to be looking 'windy'. Not enough light does, not rotating it. I didn't suggest that your plant doesn't have woody trunks as it should, just that they seem not to be supporting themselves enough - again, because of lack of some sun...

  • 5 years ago

    Lol Canada is a pretty big place 😅


    Thanks for the help.

  • 5 years ago

    Yes, it is...as you can see I live in cooler zone. There isn't much sun during the winter in most of the Canada.

  • 5 years ago

    FYI if you google for pictures you'll see that that kind of sedum grows to trail over the sides of pots once it gets to a certain height.


    Deanna

  • 5 years ago

    Yep. I just liked it upright, so instead of it leaning over the edge, it's leaning against the tie. :) That bottom new growth will likely go off the edge though since it's so low.

  • 5 years ago
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    I have seen photos like this (copied from net):


    I am sure many will let it trail - IMO it looks great if upright, without any support...it has woody trunks, so should be easy. Either way is probably ok. It will be more upright if more compact - and for that it needs good light.